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Originally Posted by roland1
"Dictation" = voice to text. I speak the phrase into the "Find" field rather than type it.
I have dozens of references for one word, so I always have to type out the words around it so I can hone in on the exact page for that keyword. Speaking the text quickens the pace.
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Yes, but I didn't understand exactly how you're using it. (Still don't.)
So let's say you have "dog, 123" in your index.
You're jumping to page 123's text, then trying to locate the
exact word "dog" on that page? (And you're currently using dictation to speak the words instead?)
... and what exactly would the point of that be? If you're not marking indexed words within the original source document (Word, LO, etc.), seems like you're wasting lots of time.
Just link to the page #s, and move on.
(I explain more in-depth reasoning in the topic below.)
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Originally Posted by roland1
Also, when I read some posts about page numbering, I saw that it wasn't an easy fix. Some people were saying "How come the page numbers don't show up?" in device a/b or c.
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RPNs are a complete pain in the neck to produce. Many ereaders won't display them.
... But within the past few years, I have
slightly loosened on how useless they are in ebooks (for Accessibility reasons).
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Originally Posted by roland1
Thanks again. Oh, and the index alphabetizing thing happens in subtopics. I have a psychological breakdown of fear indexed and it goes from "fear of" (f) to horror (h) and then to "fleeing" (back to f again). so it goes from f to h to f. I'm have to investigate more later.
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In Sigil's Index Editor + Create Index?
(But you shouldn't even have that problem, because you deleted all that and worked from the Print book's text. Right?
)
But it would be good to get those Sigil bugs sorted. Not many people go poking around in the index tools.
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Originally Posted by roland1
Just to be clear, I don't put "dozens" of references for one word into the index. I just mean that there can be dozens of instances of a word throughout the book and so I have to isolate it by identifying the words that surround it. Luckily, those words show up in the print file indexing window.
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If you haven't already, you'll also probably want to read through:
Post #129 is where I entered the picture, describing nearly every facet of Indexing/citations in ebooks.
(You could also start at #6, where Hitch began posting. But there's a
massive amount of ranting/raving from other users... you'd probably gather all the real-life indexes-in-ebooks production by reading each of Hitch's posts + mine.)
Now, I don't know if you hired an actual Indexer to create your index. But, in many cases, those
exact words/terms just won't show up within the text.
Indexes allow you to have more broad strokes or general terms. Here's one of the examples I gave in that post:
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Originally Posted by Tex2002ans
"Ancestors, 3, 36, 145".
Great, I found the word "ancestors" in page 3, EASY. But wtf is this, I just read the entire page 36, and I don't see "ancestors" on the page.
You (as the converter) must now read/skim the ~400-800 words that constitute "page 36" to find what the Indexer ACTUALLY meant.
You have to look for all the related words: "ancestry" + "ancestor" + "ancestral". Maybe it just has an important sentence/paragraph that talks about ancestors indirectly (maybe talking about older relatives, or ancient civilizations).
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I also covered the "looks-like-only-a-single-number, but multiple-times-per-page" problem too:
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Originally Posted by Tex2002ans
Hard #2: "Keynes, John Maynard, 429, 464, 467, 468n, 546n, 737, 771, 785, 787, 846".
Keynes might be mentioned multiple times on a page. It just so happened to be because of the way the physical book was laid out (page margins, font, [...]), that Keynes was mentioned in the first + last paragraph on page 429, BUT, the middle paragraphs don't talk about him at all.
Where do I link? Do I link to that first paragraph? Do I link to the last paragraph too?
Keynes may also be mentioned quite a few times throughout the book on other pages, but it is just an unimportant/passing remark. This doesn't belong in the Index. In my searching/jumping around page numbers though, I STILL come across "Keynes" a hundred times, this takes time to sift through. (This is the problem of the Search/Concordance method + any sort of automated/semi-automated Indexing tools).
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