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Quoth · 10-03-2021, 11:51 AM

I wasn't attacking you, JasperBeardly, just pointing out why dark mode was resurrected and why on eink it doesn't matter for most people.

Xerox Star, 1981. The first desktop windows / GUI / WIMP system
The Apple Lisa was the Mk1 Mac, Apple's first GUI/WIMP based PC in 1983.
Digital Research Gem was 1984.
Microsoft Windows 1.0 in 1985 and Windows 2.0 in 1987 (First usable Windows was 3.x)
Risc OS (Acorn ARM based Archimedes)
IBM & MS OS/2 existed before it got the GUI in 1988.
There was an MS OS/2 in 1989. IBM from 1989 was developing it separately.
Sun's SunOS 4.1.1 had Open Windows GUI in 1990.
Sun's Solaris 1992
Windows NT first version was 3.1 in 1993. The 2000 is 5.0, XP is 5.1. Vista and Win7 were really NT 6.x.

None of these offered a dark mode except on the terminal windows. The Desktops were paper mode. Any could have offered dark mode.

Apple's iPhone X was their first AMOLED/OLED product in 2017. OLED needs a dark mode to save power. Because they are really electroluminescent dots and not true LEDs they are also limited in brightness compared to LCDs with real LED back lights. So many Apple product use LCD to be better visible in direct sunlight.

From 1981 to 2017 approximately no GUI offered dark mode though any could have. I used a lot of these as well as Amiga and Atari GUIs.

Google's Android and iOS offered dark mode. Some Web sites used it. It became a fashion and was added to Windows 10. I don't know how long Linux desktops and MacOS has offered it, but it's largely fashion except for power saving on OLED phones.

It's now another user preference, a user choice. The only point I was trying to make is that everything used to use dark mode and then didn't for nearly 30 years and current availability is due to OLED creating a user demand for it. No eye condition needs it. It's purely a personal preference on eInk and LCD.

Perhaps stupid grey text on web pages has helped promote it as inverting the screen makes it easier to improve contrast.

Read wikipedia and other sources on AMOLED, OLED, GUIs, dark mode etc.

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Quoth Still reading Posts: 14,341 Karma: 105899727 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper	I wasn't attacking you, JasperBeardly, just pointing out why dark mode was resurrected and why on eink it doesn't matter for most people. Xerox Star, 1981. The first desktop windows / GUI / WIMP system The Apple Lisa was the Mk1 Mac, Apple's first GUI/WIMP based PC in 1983. Digital Research Gem was 1984. Microsoft Windows 1.0 in 1985 and Windows 2.0 in 1987 (First usable Windows was 3.x) Risc OS (Acorn ARM based Archimedes) IBM & MS OS/2 existed before it got the GUI in 1988. There was an MS OS/2 in 1989. IBM from 1989 was developing it separately. Sun's SunOS 4.1.1 had Open Windows GUI in 1990. Sun's Solaris 1992 Windows NT first version was 3.1 in 1993. The 2000 is 5.0, XP is 5.1. Vista and Win7 were really NT 6.x. None of these offered a dark mode except on the terminal windows. The Desktops were paper mode. Any could have offered dark mode. Apple's iPhone X was their first AMOLED/OLED product in 2017. OLED needs a dark mode to save power. Because they are really electroluminescent dots and not true LEDs they are also limited in brightness compared to LCDs with real LED back lights. So many Apple product use LCD to be better visible in direct sunlight. From 1981 to 2017 approximately no GUI offered dark mode though any could have. I used a lot of these as well as Amiga and Atari GUIs. Google's Android and iOS offered dark mode. Some Web sites used it. It became a fashion and was added to Windows 10. I don't know how long Linux desktops and MacOS has offered it, but it's largely fashion except for power saving on OLED phones. It's now another user preference, a user choice. The only point I was trying to make is that everything used to use dark mode and then didn't for nearly 30 years and current availability is due to OLED creating a user demand for it. No eye condition needs it. It's purely a personal preference on eInk and LCD. Perhaps stupid grey text on web pages has helped promote it as inverting the screen makes it easier to improve contrast. Read wikipedia and other sources on AMOLED, OLED, GUIs, dark mode etc. Last edited by Quoth; 10-03-2021 at 11:54 AM.