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Old 09-28-2021, 08:33 AM   #447
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Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
This is why you should use different passwords on every account and n password should be a variation of another password. That way if you find out that a site gets hacked, you only need to change your password once.
While this is good advice it has nothing to do with the circumstances described. I do indeed use different passwords for different sites, but once a site has been compromised and credit card (and other) details are stolen those details can be used again again. At least the credit card I can cancel, other private details are not so easy to reset, which is why I keep those to details to a minimum.

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Originally Posted by Sirtel View Post
I use PayPal where possible. And bank transfer in local stores. But where it's not possible to use other methods, I do leave my card number. Moreover, I use several subscription services. Netflix, Dropbox, Prime Video, Adobe Photoshop, Google Drive 100 GB (for Gmail) and more. Not all of them have PayPal as a payment option, so I have to keep my card info there.

I'm sure many people live perfectly well without using any subscription services. So what? I want to use them and I do. I'm willing to take a security risk to do that. (Yes, I know Dropbox and Adobe, to name but two, have had data leaks.)
That is what I was saying above, being careful does not mean you cannot use these services - I can and do use several of these.

Using different passwords for everywhere is good advice, but goes directly against your earlier proclamation of "because their services are good, fast and convenient. And I prioritize that over privacy." Fast and convenient would be the same same easy to remember password everywhere, but we don't do that because it's stupid. So we might use a password manager, but finding one to work smoothly between all our devices is not easy - so even here convenience is being sacrificed for security and privacy.

Like you, I use Paypal where I can - but since the second time my credit card details were stolen I now take this to another level where I basically refuse to purchase from sites that don't support Paypal (eg: I can't do pre-ordering from Kobo, but I can make normal purchases there). There are a very small number of exceptions (currently 3) - stuff important enough for me to take that risk. And for a few things I've worked out that gift cards can be used to get me around site limitations (I think someone mentioned this earlier).

There are many parts to this and we all draw the line at different places. But it's certainly possible to use many online services without giving away all your details. The trade-offs you are willing to make for particular sites or services will be different to mine, but it's a continuum - not an all or nothing thing. And once people realise that, they can begin to take additional small steps to improve their privacy without greatly affecting what is available to them.
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