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Old 09-22-2021, 05:36 PM   #110
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What, the ONE TIME I could have actually been useful, since they stopped accepting donations and you send him the files! You are Dastardly!
You're still useful, Hitch, you're still suuuuper useful... (not ).

Still look for some baaaad InDesign files.

I sent relatively tame ones.

(I know I have some really disgusting ones over the years, but I just grabbed one off the top of my head + my latest from two weeks ago.)

You've definitely seen a lot worse stuff than me too. Oh boy... some of your horror stories...

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You should be getting a master "file" called an indb. However, to use it, you'd have to have INDD.
Because of Adobe's cloud/subscription bullshit, and insisting on INDD only opening in the latest-and-"greatest" version...

... I fallback to IDML files.

This allows me to open it up in whatever older InDesign version I have.

There's no way I'm going to pay some preposterous fee, only to open the files for a split second and export EPUBs out.

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Apparently, they licensed INDD on Monday, got a job on Wednesday and now, even though they couldn't spell DEZINER on Monday, now they IZ ONE!

GRRRRRMMMMMMMBLLLL
I only met one, one typesetter, who knew what he was doing with Styles.

He was a pleasure to meet/talk with in-person, and he had a very nice Styles workflow. (Also in charge of typesetting monthly/quarterly journals + lots of other random documents.)

I haven't had the pleasure to work directly with him though.

But that's the kind of person I could trust coming up with a consistent Styles workflow from:

Word Styles -> InDesign Styles -> HTML/EPUB Classes -> Sigil cleanup.

But that requires someone who knows what they're doing at that Input/Output stage.

(Similar to those videos I link to showing how to use Word to cleanup Styles + catch Direct Formatting. [LibreOffice 7.1 recently added a Styles Inspector too!])

Word Styles... a few of the editors I work with know/use them... but the problem there is lots of them are working in CMSes (Content Management Systems) or Google Docs... so they're mostly working directly on the web.

Yes, they may get a Word file initially from an author, but then it quickly goes into web collaboration... and then, with many fingers in the pie, more and more Direct Formatting and crap gets introduced.

(Not to mention all the absolute hidden TRASH that gets introduced when doing Comments, Track Changes, copying/pasting from the web, using the Rich Text Editors, using the mobile version of these apps, etc.)

Complete Side Note: LibreOffice is going to be having their 2021 conference tomorrow:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/...-participants/

There's dozens of talks with lots of interesting information in there.

I'm very interested in the:

Built-in "Xray" like UNO object inspector

which is similar to the Inspector built into web browsers. You'd be able to open up a document and see the DOM + exactly what properties are set:

https://tomazvajngerl.blogspot.com/2...inspector.html

That might help in debugging some particularly tricky documents.

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