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Originally Posted by Hitch
Okay, so--and understand that I am vaccinated, being "that age," but:
As you've been vaccinated, why do you care if someone else is? The vaccine works, or it doesn't, yes? If it doesn't, why get it? If it does, why do we care if John Doe does or doesn't get it himself?
Alternatively and conversely, if you don't trust the vaccine, why insist that someone else get it?
Hitch
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Originally Posted by Hitch
So...here's my question about that. Do we make the same arguments about other risky behavior? Who picks up the tab when the obese get sick? Who might be denied access to health care resources because the obese are usurping them? (insert any risky behavior in the two sentences.) Or what about people who stuff their faces with MEAT? With high-fat foods, clogging their arteries, even if their bodies are slender? What about having a drink of booze? Or 5? Every person who is significantly overweight uses up healthcare resources and drives up the price of healthcare and insurance--affecting everybody. Ditto heavy drinkers, bad-food eaters and on and on. Very, very few people can say that they belong to NO "bad choice" groups.
What's next, after insisting that the unvaccinated wear indicative armbands, or whatever they'll come up with?
My point is, we seem to have become obsessed with dictating what other people will do. It's a very bloody slippery slope. It's very easy to lost sight of freedoms, when everybody is scared, but we don't run around chasing people door-to-door during flu season. We don't walk up to strangers in a restaurant and rip food out of their hands, or publicly critique what they're eating--or forbid it.
It's all well and good for us to look at the last 18 months and react in a way that starts stripping away the rights of people to make crappy choices--and we have to be very careful about that. We still don't have enough distance from everything that's happened to even KNOW if half of what we did (lockdowns, shutting schools, closing small businesses) even had any good impact, other than removing people from circulation enough to stem the speed of infection--and it's not clear that the lockdowns did that.
It's too easy to slip into Burn The Witch behavior. We already see this all around us, with people being burned alive on Twitter, FB, etc., (obviously, not literally speaking) losing their jobs, being "cancelled" and all that crap. Now we're hearing talk that "The Unvaccinated" won't be able to have their jobs, won't be able to go here, go there...this begins to sound pretty damn creepifying to me. And if it were me espousing this, I'd give very careful thought to Martin Niemöller's famous quote.
Frightened people often trade freedom for security--and somehow, it never works out well.
Hitch
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I think you moved the goal posts.