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Originally Posted by Hitch
He'd created 3 different types of "notes." He had on-page footnotes (asterisms); he had end notes (numbered notes that elaborated on the content of the on-page footnotes and had author's thoughts about this or that) and then, he had source notes, sourcing the materials for each 'set' of notes.
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Reminds me of that absolute mother of all footnotes I worked on:
2013: "A link to jump back to the original start point?" (Post #16) +
Post #19
Or everyone remembers the famous "footnoteception" thread!
2018: "Endnotes within Endnotes"
Lots of great discussion within those threads.
That book I showed had 3 sets of footnotes (Author + Editor + Translator) + absolutely massive (one took up 7 pages!).
And back in 2018, I came up with the updated "A1" + "E1" + "T1" forms, instead of having various mixes of symbols/letters/numbers.
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I cannot tell you what we went through, with the eBooks. I had warned him that the superscripts were hard to tap.
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What's frustrating is I read on a smaller font on my phone.
With the superscript numbers, the <sup> font is teeny tiny. Trying to click on a super skinny '1' or '*' is just impossible.
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Originally Posted by Hitch
FIRST, he wanted them separated--so you'd have footnotes, and then end notes and then the (linked, mind you) author's notes/source notes.
But no, when that came out, he didn't like it. It was too "hard" for the reader to have to click, go to the end notes list, read what he wanted and then click back.
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Hmmm... What would be wrong with 3 separate endnote chapters?
So at the very end of the ebook, you'd have:
- Footnotes.xhtml
- Endnotes.xhtml
- Author Notes.xhtml
or only 2, if you include footnotes at the very end of each chapter.
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Originally Posted by Hitch
Then he decided that the so-called "endnotes" would be in numerical sequence, with the footnotes. So, we ended up with (you cannot make this s**t up):
[1]
2
[3]
4
5
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W...T...F.
NO!
They'd have to be completely distinct numbering schemes.
And in the merged notes file, you could put them in chronological order.
See that Jean-Baptiste Say book I linked in the topic above. Each set of notes numbered from 1->99, and placed in the order they appear within the text.
- A1
- A2
- E1
- A3
- E2
- T1
- [...]
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Originally Posted by Hitch
with the non-bracketed so-called "end notes" smaller than the bracketed footnotes. He seemed to think that the reader was going to "infer" that they were meant to read the bracketed content, but only read the non-bracketed content when the book was finished. (Before you ask, no, there was no disclaimer, no nuthin' about this).
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If you're going to be doing something arcane/non-standard, you'd definitely have to explain this somewhere.
The very first footnote is a great location. For example, I believe I stuck an[*] footnote as the very first one, which broke down the A# + E# + T# system.
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Originally Posted by Hitch
then, when he got the ePUB, and put it into KP3, he was unhappy that the bracketed notes popped up in the on-page popups, but the non-bracketed didn't. (Same identical coding, btw. No idea why some did and some didn't.)
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Hmmm... strange, strange.
Did it work in the actual published book though?
Perhaps the firmware heuristically detects which type you're using (by looking at the first one or two), then disables the other alternates?
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Originally Posted by Hitch
Did anybody here read that Churchill book with the DISASTROUS footnote/endnote debacle? The Kindle or ePUB version? This one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079R3VH13 Oh-em-gee, what an abortion that thing was. 1100 pages and IDK how many foot/endnotes.
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What's the exact problems?