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Originally Posted by sun surfer
I have a bone to pick!
I would rather never have an ending than to have endure the agony of the television show's eighth (and seventh) season again. That was, I think, the biggest downfall of a tv show that I've ever seen.
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I have to defer to your knowledge here; I gave up the show after the first season.
[quoteI don't think Martin lost the plot in the fourth and fifth books per se; the world and story aren't chaotic or disorganised, they've just grown so large and complex.[/quote]
Well, the sprawling and complex nature was authorial choice. Rather than manage the plot, he just kept making up new stuff.
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Books 4 and 5 were really one book split in two, and I think they're on par with the quality of book 2.
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One of the big problems with books 4 and 5 was the inclusion of detail that served no purpose at all. In the first book, it was possible to go between Winterfell and King’s Landing without hearing about every single minor event that happened on the way. The journey with Jaime and Brienne was excruciating.
Exactly!