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abrogard · 03-30-2021, 12:36 AM

I'm back. It was only a screwed up boot order thing. Probably happened when I hung a Unix Mint off the thing to see if it would boot (it wouldn't). By some magic it changed the boot order though.

When I say 'disk crash' I use the term loosely. As often as not - more often than not - they're OS crashes. And I've had a swag of them.

My setup perhaps isn't identical with yours, Sirtel (are you really in Estonia? I've always thought it must be a superb place and longed to go there. Probably never, ever will, though)

I run the family's machines: five in use daily and a couple of spares - 7 machines - and sometimes that unix mint machine, too.

Two members plod along month after month with never a problem. Mum on win7 and youngest son on win10. Mum does nothing but watch youtube things and email, youngest does nothing but computer games like Minecraft.

But eldest son and myself - OS and disk crashes are nothing new. I see now he's put his machine in the corner of his room - it must have died again. Last time it died that's what he did - too sick of it all to bother telling me about it and asking for help.

He plays far more games, is continually downloading installing and running new ones. He gets about a bit. That could maybe be it.

I get about heaps. And have an enormous (well I think it's enormous, how to quickly find the count?) swag of installed apps and I'm continuously finding I have to download/install something more. So that could maybe be it for me.

But win security is pretty good nowadays so I doubt virus attack. More likely to be simply incompatible software or poorly behaved software, I think.

And doubtless we've made blunders from ignorance. Like early days 'no NTLdr' messages would have driven us to googling for help and we'd finish up doing all kinds of things starting with MS trouble shooting which for this is totally useless of course and soon drives you to doing a reinstall.

And web pages by well meaning people have us doing all sorts of other things that miss the point, too.

What I'm saying is that not a few of our 'crashes' maybe should not have been crashes at all but were mere glitches we handled badly.

Because the alternative seems to be that both he and I have 'bad' machines, wicked nasty little brutes that won't cooperate. And I think that may just not be right.

Anyway.. back to my library hassles. I'll get with it this evening..

03-30-2021, 12:36 AM	#13
abrogard Groupie Posts: 168 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2017 Device: kindle	I'm back. It was only a screwed up boot order thing. Probably happened when I hung a Unix Mint off the thing to see if it would boot (it wouldn't). By some magic it changed the boot order though. When I say 'disk crash' I use the term loosely. As often as not - more often than not - they're OS crashes. And I've had a swag of them. My setup perhaps isn't identical with yours, Sirtel (are you really in Estonia? I've always thought it must be a superb place and longed to go there. Probably never, ever will, though) I run the family's machines: five in use daily and a couple of spares - 7 machines - and sometimes that unix mint machine, too. Two members plod along month after month with never a problem. Mum on win7 and youngest son on win10. Mum does nothing but watch youtube things and email, youngest does nothing but computer games like Minecraft. But eldest son and myself - OS and disk crashes are nothing new. I see now he's put his machine in the corner of his room - it must have died again. Last time it died that's what he did - too sick of it all to bother telling me about it and asking for help. He plays far more games, is continually downloading installing and running new ones. He gets about a bit. That could maybe be it. I get about heaps. And have an enormous (well I think it's enormous, how to quickly find the count?) swag of installed apps and I'm continuously finding I have to download/install something more. So that could maybe be it for me. But win security is pretty good nowadays so I doubt virus attack. More likely to be simply incompatible software or poorly behaved software, I think. And doubtless we've made blunders from ignorance. Like early days 'no NTLdr' messages would have driven us to googling for help and we'd finish up doing all kinds of things starting with MS trouble shooting which for this is totally useless of course and soon drives you to doing a reinstall. And web pages by well meaning people have us doing all sorts of other things that miss the point, too. What I'm saying is that not a few of our 'crashes' maybe should not have been crashes at all but were mere glitches we handled badly. Because the alternative seems to be that both he and I have 'bad' machines, wicked nasty little brutes that won't cooperate. And I think that may just not be right. Anyway.. back to my library hassles. I'll get with it this evening..