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Herd immunity protects the unvaccinated. It doesn't protect the vaccinated part of the herd. [...]
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Of course it does. That's (almost) the entire point of it. It protects people for whom the vaccine did not work (no vaccine is 100% across the whole population), people whose vaccine has worn off, people who couldn't get their hands on the particular vaccine effective against X new strain, people who are immunosuppressed, etc etc etc.
As well as people who were too young to be vaccinated, people whose doctor won't vaccinate them yet because they're pregnant (hopefully that won't be the case for long with new data out), people who genuinely could not afford a vaccine in countries where it is not fully and freely accessible, and so on.
The vaccines still aren't approved for children, but there are many kids who may be more susceptible to COVID - those with Down Syndrome, SMA, immune conditions etc. My strong hope is that they will eventually be vaccinated, but this isn't going to happen in your two months time scale.
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You can't force people to be good and caring - it doesn't work
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You can't force that, no. You can however foster and encourage a culture where it is expected, encouraged, and ok to be so. The enormous variation in different culture's reactions to COVID precautions shows that to be so. You can also do things like have paid sick leave (and a culture of staying home when ill) so people aren't forced to work when they are infectious. There are a lot of non-vaccination measure a society can take to reduce the spread of infectious disease.
Tangenting off that, we (and I assume your country also) are LONG overdue for a massive overhaul in building engineering and indoor air quality standards. Yes we're starting to vaccinate from this airborne virus, but what about the next one(s)?
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Very sad, but it cannot be 100% prevented.
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I'm getting a strong whiff of "maybe I'll kill a few pregnant people, disabled kids, or folks with cancer, *shrug*, whatever, can't be helped." Which I can't imagine you actually meant.
To your peanut analogy, I eat peanuts in my own home. But I don't go out in public with peanut butter smeared on my hands. Simple measures to reduce risk to others. To the same end, I've been strongly encouraging anyone who wears gloves to shop to choose non latex gloves.
In other news: I got an appointment for Monday, the very first day of 1b here. Fingers crossed it works for me; though that's a toss-up, and I'll still have to rely on the precautions that others take.