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Originally Posted by robintes

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Now it looks more like the original poster is unfamiliar with the conventions of written dialogue in the English language. Either way, I'm nonpussed.
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This must be a new marketing tool - Diss the paying Customer (Reader)

Sport, you are not the "paying customer." I don't know WHO you think you are, but a paying customer, you are not. Everybody is equal here; we're not "selling" you anything.

Its already been noted on this thread that Academics have largely ignored the need for Dialog construction.

Really? Who said that and where, exactly?

Its also been said that often Authors are careless or ignorant of basic Dialog rules and furthermore the hapless Reader is in fact quite flexible in following sloppy dialog UP TO A POINT

Nope. I don't think anybody said that, either. If what you mean to say is, in this day and age of self-publishing, there are literally hundreds of thousands of total incompetents publising books, well, yes, that's certainly true. People who have no story to tell; people who have a story and are incapable of telling it and then, all those who fall in-between and do "creative" things like write narrative paragraphs first-line indent and dialogue paragraphs block-style. Silly nonsense like that.

Readers TRY to plow through those mistakes, but generally, give up and don't bother. There are many more fish in the sea.

After that the plot gets lost and immersion broken. Its what I have found and its made worse by the nature of Ereaders and their shortened pages

You are either reading on a crap app, or you are reading crap eBooks on a normal app or device.

So my OP was a wake up call to see if this new media could offer some improvements/innovations in the system. I'm encouraged to see that cages have been rattled and even dummies spat out

Really? That's what you think you've done? I've seen just under 9,000 manuscripts at my shop. You think that you're the first to try something new? See if something "new" could be done? I've seen manuscripts with over 41 different font faces, one for each "new character" and it was the dog's breakfast. Pal, I saw 5 of you before I finished my morning coffee--today alone.

Its illuminating to note that we have two distinct parties to this discussion. On the luddite left we have the Publishers who have the benefit of overviewing thousands of MS per year complete with all their pros and cons, while on the restless right side we have authors of varying places in the great pecking order of selling success all jostling, individually isolated. with "me first" fervour.

The "luddite left"? You mean the people here that have collectively made more than 10,000 eBooks? Those "luddites"? And "restless right?" Don't be utterly presumptuous and absurd. You know what authors want? They want to bloody SELL. 99.9% of them couldn't give two s**ts about how paragraphs are formatted or what fonts are used. Why? Because they are WRITERS, not prancing, self-involved prats that think that using different fonts will alleviate the necessity for them to learn how to write a coherent scene.

This board seems largely composed of the LEFT so no point issuing a challenge on the above premise as Publishers dont write. The RIGHTers are too busy scribbling away in their lonely sheds to waste time on this anal subject

Happily, those of us who post here, trying to actually HELP people, are afforded the ability to ignore posters that are boring or tedious, so nope, I shan't be crapping on you from some height. Can't be bothered. You can take your self-obsessed, ridiculously unwarranted presumptuous self and f**k right off. I already have to put up with the great unwashed and untalented's unwarranted self-centeredness all day, for my daily bread, so it'll be a cold day in hell before I put up with it on a forum where I come to relax.

Lemme guess--you write POETRY too, amirite?

Lung Chang

/done here.

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