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Old 11-24-2020, 04:11 PM   #9
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Yes, you are all completely right! thank you for your help!


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But your hints to detect soft hyphens in Sigil are really valuable to me in the future, as this issue occurs not so rarely.
If a book ever pops up with "Find and Replace isn't working", my mind instantly jumps to soft hyphens, and that's usually the problem 100% of the time!

Side Note: Another potential "weird character" issue is substituting Latin characters with Cyrillic ones:

C (Latin)
С (Cyrillic letter)

It's mostly used in Phishing attacks:

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/03/...ual-confusion/

and unscrupulous people who try to sell you dirt cheap "writing" (on sites like Fiverr) by copying already written works and swapping characters that visually look similar... trying to get around "plagiarism checks".

Again, red squigglies, "broken search", and/or Sigil's Character Reports would give it away.

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Soft hyphens would be my guess. Hate those things.
Me too. Awful, awful things!

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But way too many English speaking folk choose to litter their text with them in a hackish attempt to simulate hyphenation in rendering engines that don't natively support it. THAT'S what I hate. The pollution of markup with invisible hyphens in every single word over one syllable.

People should buy readers that natively support hyphenation if they read content that would suffer without it (and it matters greatly to them).


And with devices like Kobo, you can insert your own hyphenation dictionary if needed, and then poof, you get properly hyphenated words without all the downsides!

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I own a Kobo, and in fact, Kobo has a built-in hyphenation, but for reasons that I ignore, this hyphenation in the german language is rather awful, which means it isn't correct in perhaps 30 % of the examples. This is a real matter for "good" reading.
You may want to check out JSWolf's "Better Hyphenation" thread.

He recently included Kobo hyphenation dictionaries for the German (DE) language.

I believe some of the default languages use extremely high left/right numbers (sometimes as high as 5), which means words might not even get hyphenated unless 10+ characters long!

Hyphenation Note: Different languages require different Left/Right minimums for proper typography (a trusted list can be found at Hyphenation.org):

2/3 (English)
2/2 (German)
2/2 (Spanish)
1/2 (Armenian)

Depending on the language, they'll use 1-3.

But 5??? Preposterous. Don't know what Kobo was thinking with those.

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Never been a big fan of content providers deciding for readers what should be important to them.
Exactly. Plus, as I've stated in those topics before, soft hyphens cause so much collateral damage across the board.

Breaking highlighting and dictionary support being two of the biggest that have bothered me lately:

I believe on my Kobo Forma (?), when dragging the highlight, the cursor "gets stuck" on soft hyphens, so dragging stutters in the middle of a word, not following my finger as expected.

And on many Android readers, when you highlight a soft-hyphenated word and try to dictionary lookup, it'll tell you "word is not found".

Note: I forget exact details, and I haven't experienced this in a few years... because I make sure to purge all soft hyphens from all ebooks I load up.

But the horrifying memories are still burned into my brain...

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