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Originally Posted by MGlitch

I never claimed I did. I said remainder stock would indicate they did not sell as well as expected, which is yet another example of basic logic you're incapable of grasping so let me explain it. A company will seek to have as close to zero remainders as they can and still meet the demand in a case like this since supply is essentially infinite as long as Kobo wishes to foot the bill for ordering more KA1s. They will do this by using any market tools they have to judge demand for the product and act on those results. A greater than zero number post discontinued status indicates that the results of said judgment of demand were over what the market wanted since there are more devices left over.
A product being discontinued would also indicate the company has tried to sell all the remaining stock of it as they can. Since any remaining unsold stock is a negative to their profits. Note, just because you seem to need things spelled out for you, a negative to their profits does not mean their net gain will be negative, it means their profits will be lesser than they could have been had they sold the product.
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The above reply is in response to my saying:
"It could just as easily be the case that people have bought them, checked them, and are completely happy with them, and hence have no need to report anything here.
It's a well known fact that people are many, many, times more likely to review/post about something that does not meet their expectations than something that does."
That has nothing to do with advertising. It was pointing out that people buying the devices and their working correctly was just as good an explanation for no posts about battery faults as your rather convoluted one.
Actually no, it's in response to this (my initial response in bold your reply in italic:
But it's okay: "If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”. ― Carl Sandburg
Probably for all the reasons I outlined above, online forums, of any sort, are small representations of the greater market. They tend not to be very representational of those markets either because the users had to have something to drive them to create an account.
Not finding examples of an niche product (ereaders) for a niche discontinued product (the previous premium device from kobo) in niche groups (online forums), gosh I can not possibly imagine how this issue might have slipped past the, as you seem to see it, all mighty and all knowing internets!
It's hilarious you're calling me a muppet, while proving my point. So here since you're daft and need things spelled out in very plain text
Kobo finds KA1s in some storeroom in these markets
Kobo tests a few and they pass
Kobo sells the remainder, however a selection of these have faced battery
degradation, a selection possibly (and probably) greater than normal because of time elapsed and storage conditions
Some nutter finds Kobo is selling KA1s and thinks they have decided to manufacture new ones and that each and every device will be tested to arrive perfect to his door. This same daft nutter who has a history of technical issues with his own original KA1 which he was equally daft about getting resolved.
No, I'm giving a wider base of example situations, because the world isn't just black and white it's this whole spectrum of situations. But here let me break it down for the daft nutter
The people who buy them do value them, and thus wish to protect them and ensure they do not get broken.
The people who do not buy them (and in the KA1s case this will be a greater number comparatively in the market) do not value them and will not seek to buy them.
Both these groups can co-exist very easily. And that's not even getting into the granularity within those groups.
Again, online forums represent a small fraction the the market, whatever market it is. Nor are you representational of the greater user base (though I'm sure anyone working CS is pleased as punch they wont have to be the front line for your abrasive commentary)
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Yet more wild speculation as you desperately make up scenarios to prove your case.
It's hardly wild speculation that corporations enjoy saving money, they're sort of in the business of making money and thus needlessly spending it runs counter to that goal.
They're likely hoping for a combination of people not noticing, or not caring that battery life isn't 100%. Not that they make any strong claims to the battery life as David pointed out, it's "weeks of reading*" *30mins a day, in ideal conditions blah blah blah. If it hits 14 days doing that, their claim is made. I'd go on with examples of people just charging their devices nightly as a force of habit with phones, but you'd probably get confused and think I was saying all people do all these things like some daft twit who doesn't grasp the basics of modular examples.
You've actually done little other than make baseless claims of any counter point to your initial belief to be "wild speculation" and call them all daft. You've not presented any sort of actual counter to them aside from dismissing them entirely which doesn't actually work as countering them. Especially when neither David nor I have made any wild speculation. We've made speculation based on the information (such as it is) at hand, and the knowledge which is freely available that we have both stated.
Is every single KA1 found in these batches going to be a dud, or have lesser battery life? Probably not, but there certainly exists enough data to say that there's a greater chance of it. These aren't fresh off the assembly line devices, they've been sitting somewhere for quite some time.
I can only hope your device is not plagued with issues so you return to your regular posting habits here.

I'm not going to answer all this as it's mainly meaningless blether, and the fact that you can't use the quote system properly, or even do a basic check of your post further complicates any already confused rant.

I'll just deal with this first chunk as it demonstrates that you are really stumbling around in the dark with no real idea of what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by MGlitch

I never claimed I did. I said remainder stock would indicate they did not sell as well as expected,

Nonsense!

This is not something that is selling simply in bricks and mortar establishments, where there is competition for shelf space. It's available on the 'net where it can stay in the on-line shops as long as there is stock available. There is no need to remainder anything.

IF this stock comes from third party bricks and mortar companies who managed to lose it for a while that would be their inability to correctly order what they could sell.

which is yet another example of basic logic you're incapable of grasping so let me explain it.

Not really much point in explaining something that is nonsense. However:

A company will seek to have as close to zero remainders as they can and still meet the demand in a case like this since supply is essentially infinite as long as Kobo wishes to foot the bill for ordering more KA1s.

Your inability to use basic punctuation has made that sentence little more then gobbledegook. The part coloured red makes sense in a very obvious sort of way, then then the rest of it it wanders off into confused irrelevance.

They will do this by using any market tools they have to judge demand for the product and act on those results.

Excellent! A whole sentence that makes sense and (again in a very obvious sort of way) is even correct.

A greater than zero number post discontinued status indicates that the results of said judgment of demand were over what the market wanted since there are more devices left over.

Again, that only makes sense in a situation where they have to discontinue the item. Here they didn't, as they can just leave it in their on-line shop until they are all sold. (just as they seem to be doing now.)

A product being discontinued would also indicate the company has tried to sell all the remaining stock of it as they can.

Utter rubbish. A product being discontinued can indicate various things but how can it possibly indicate something that cannot, by definition, happen until it has been discontinued? The stock is not 'remaining' until it has been discontinued.

Since any remaining unsold stock is a negative to their profits.

Obviously (assuming that translating 'is a negative to' into English yields: 'reduces').

Note, just because you seem to need things spelled out for you, a negative to their profits does not mean their net gain will be negative, it means their profits will be lesser than they could have been had they sold the product.

Again, stating the blindingly obvious,but just for the purpose of being rude.

BTW, just for future reference, a negative gain is called a 'loss'. Just saying.

I really can't waste any more time on this post as you have clearly demonstrated above that you have a very poor grasp of how businesses really operate.

Your post is littered with evidence free speculations, and I do not need to provide a counter to any of it, because I'm not making any counter claim, simply pointing out that you are making assumptions without any evidence.