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Originally Posted by MGlitch

What’s absurd is your inability to understand fewer people buying something reduces the odds that one of them will find this forum and post about it.

That wasn't what I said. I was challenging your speculation. You have no idea how many have sold in each market.

Seriously this is simple logic.

Quite.

Unfortunately, you are using that simple logic on imagined data which makes any conclusion completely invalid.

No. I’m pointing out that remaining stock of a discontinued product indicates low demand for the product. Sorry to be blunt but you’re being foolish.

Again, you are making wild assumptions and using faulty logic. Whether or not a product has been discontinued is irrelevant. What is important is how many are available - and you have no idea how many that is.

It’s not weird speculation that lack of advertising and lack of anything pushing customers to a device limits sales. Saying otherwise is not only foolish, it’s being willfully ignorant of how marketing works.

The above reply is in response to my saying:

"It could just as easily be the case that people have bought them, checked them, and are completely happy with them, and hence have no need to report anything here.

It's a well known fact that people are many, many, times more likely to review/post about something that does not meet their expectations than something that does."

That has nothing to do with advertising. It was pointing out that people buying the devices and their working correctly was just as good an explanation for no posts about battery faults as your rather convoluted one.

Further that no one from the forum has posted about this availability does indicate a lack of interest. Again this is basic logic that even a simpleton should be able to follow. The fewer people here interested in a KA1 the less likely anyone posts about them being available, and the less likely anyone here is to buy one (lack of interest + lack of awareness = less sales).

I hate to burst your little bubble, but this is only one forum among many. Forums dealing with electronics, gadgets, batteries, consumer rights ... A complaint or query could have ended up on any of these. However, Google can't seem to find any. I wonder why?

If it’s a back up device it might not even leave the box. Why set something up if it’s only going to be used if your primary device breaks.

Because only a complete and utter idiot does not test a new purchase of a piece of electronics. Even the best manufactures occasionally dispatch faulty products and you'd have to be a bit of a muppet to just leave something in its box while the warranty ran out.

Further the lack of interest versus the current line of Kobo devices would bring some serious doubt to the “obviously highly valued” comment.

ROFLMAO!

First you say that there are no reports of problems because people are keeping them in their box. Then you say that they don't value them. So someone buys something just to keep in a box in case their current instance fails, and they don't value it.

You really are getting desperate.

People’s first step is contacting customer support, not going to a niche sub forum on a niche forum neither of which have any direct ties to the company that sold them a product.

Again. This is not the only forum where people might go.

And I would always try and find information from the 'net before making a possibly pointless call to CS.

There’s plenty of evidence that lithium ion batteries degrade over time if not stored properly. It’s questionable if the places these were stored were kept at ideal or even good temperatures. Especially since it’s cheaper to not temperature control a room when/if nothing stored there is going to complain or cause immediate issues, such as a server crashing, or something melting and making a mess.

LOL

Yet more wild speculation as you desperately make up scenarios to prove your case.

But I’m sure we can count on corporations to spend money needlessly.

Yeah, like deliberately selling a load of faulty products knowing that they are going to have to deal with the potential fallout of refunds/repairs/replacements, and bad publicity.

Unless they really do think that they are all going to be bought by people who are going to leave them in a box for a year and are too animal stupid to test them first.

But really, apart from all this daft speculation (I freely admit I have no idea exactly what's going on, so I am merely countering speculation with possible alternative cases), why do you think that Kobo would knowingly sell a load of dodgy gear? Do they have form for such unethical practices?

Or are you assuming that you and the other poster who made a long case for the faulty battery scenario know more than Kobo's specialist engineers?