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Old 07-13-2020, 06:50 PM   #133
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This is mistaken and, although wholly innocent in terms of motive, a slander against the freedom to read commitment of the staff of the Princeton University Press.
False, it's a comment on what those who wrote and signed the letter were asking of Princeton University. Of which Princeton University Press is wholly controlled by.

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The word "Press" never appears anywhere in the letter I criticized in #109. It's not in the text, nor in the titles of the (by my count) 406 signatories.
Again, I'm not saying Princeton University Press is requesting to be further regulated. So any staff of the publishing division signing or not is entirely irrelevant to the letters request.

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Constitute a committee composed entirely of faculty that would oversee the investigation and discipline of racist behaviors, incidents, research, and publication on the part of faculty, ...
Emphasis mine. As this is a letter to a university body, which oversees the publishing arm of said university (why this last even needs to be stated is beyond me, it's standard practice for major universities to have publishing divisions) it follows that they are speaking of that same publishing division as they are the most likely by far to be the publisher of faculty's research

I checked the Princeton University Press employee list and, for each of the several dozen with the word Director, Publisher, or Editor in their job title, I did a search to see if any had signed the letter. I could not find any Press people, even though many other non-faculty Princeton affiliated people did sign.

This could be a coincidence. Or it could be that the Press people rank freedom to read higher than the signatories. As a reader, I hope their declining to sign reflects publisher values.

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Tenure for university faculty, and freedom to read -- especially for non-fiction -- are thus connected.

Princeton faculty salaries will then become golden handcuffs. That's just what I'm against.
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For the nth time in this thread, your "freedom to read" is not impinged upon, you are still free to read. The professors and faculty are free to write whatever they wish. They are not free from the consequences of writing whatever they wish, they and indeed no citizen have ever enjoyed that freedom.

You're demanding freedoms for the faculty while limiting the freedoms of the university. Freedoms which as mentioned no one in history have every held.
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