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Old 07-09-2020, 06:22 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by ZodWallop View Post
I don't want to drag the thread into taboo topics, so this will be my only response.

There was due process, testimony in court and convictions.

Intellectually, I agree with you. And yet, I haven't read any Orson Scott Card yet. I don't look down on his fans. But there's enough good reading out there for me to want to give Card my money.
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Bit of background: One of my friends decided at age 14 to end her life. Another friend found her journal which she had left in their shared locker at school. After reading the first few pages, she talked to her parents and they called the RCMP. When the RCMP investigated, they found that her mother and father had used their children in their sex games since the children were very young (this part I found out from my parents 10 years later when they felt I was old enough to understand). So yes, I tend to take pedophiles and korephiles seriously.

Perhaps you should read the Wikipedia article on Marion Zimmer Bradley. I do remember seeing some of the interviews and the daughter and son both came across as reliable witnesses. Though since MZB was deceased at the time, there was no trial, no due process. OTOH, her husband who was the children's father was convicted of paederasty.

As for how this affects the stories concerned? I loved quite a few of her stories. The first story by her I remember reading was The Door Through Space though I bought the book for the other half which was A. Bertram Chandler's Rendezvous on a Lost World. When I read The Bloody Sun a few years later, I dug out as much of her other writing as I could. Even mail ordering several Ace doubles (they had these handy order forms in the middle in that age). Those purchases also introduced me to a couple of other authors (Keith Laumer for instance).

And this bring me to 55 years later when I find myself unable to separate the author from the person and my enjoyment of her books has turned into a feeling of nausea when I think about re-reading one.
I did read the article. While Walter Breen was convicted and sent to prison, MZB was not. She did admit that she was aware of what was going on, but never admitted to actually molesting anyone (she wasn't actually ever accused of molesting anyone during her lifetime) She died in 1999, and in 2014, her daughter accused her of molesting her and her brother all through their childhoods.

I'm not saying that she was blameless--she knew that her husband was sexually abusing a young boy and didn't tell anyone. I am saying that the statement that "There was due process, testimony in court and convictions." is only partly true...the only one who was tried and convicted was her ex-husband, Walter Breen.

DNSB, I'm sorry for what your friend went through, and I understand that you personally can't/won't read anything by a person who was associated with pedophilia in any way. If you want to judge me because I own books by MZB, you go for it.

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