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Old 03-19-2009, 02:22 PM   #39
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You lack the anatomy, and the history, to decide what a "reasonable woman" would find threatening.
Ahh, so the female worldview is automatically correct and the male worldview automatically wrong. No, let me refine that; only *your* worldview is correct; if a woman were to disagree with your definitions, you would no doubt downplay their opinion as one that's been damaged by the inherent sexism in our male-dominated society. QED.

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How many mild, friendly groping sessions have you participated in, wherein you wished to stop, and had to resort to yelling or violence to do so?
At least two. Many more that did not start "mild, friendly".

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How many did you let continue anyway, because you were afraid of violence if you stopped?
None. If I wished it to stop and it didn't, it already *was* violence. Note that it wasn't violence *until* that point.

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If you polled a dozen of your male friends, how many have had that happen to them?
I have no idea. In any case, you lack the requisite anatomy and history to understand how males react to such things.

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I believe it's possible to make racist jokes without being a full-time racist. I don't believe that make the jokes themselves less racist.
So it's possible for a non-racist to commit a racist act. Therefore, it's possible for non-sexist to commit a sexist act. So one cannot conclude that Harlan is a sexist just because he committed a sexist act.

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As I mentioned--you don't have the perspective necessary to decide who's "really" a sexist.
Seems like both sexes would have the same handicap.

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It's because of opinions like yours that I have to give my daughters hour-long lectures before going to conventions--because a lot of men think "a little bit" of groping is harmless and therefore unobjectionable, and because of that support, the real creeps have a free pass to grope any number of women until they find one who's too scared or confused to object.
Or Heaven forbid grope one who actually enjoys it. Because women should never be allowed to enjoy the touch of an evil man.

I feel sorry for your daughters. And with that, I think we're done here.
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