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Old 06-22-2020, 06:17 PM   #114
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Originally Posted by Turtle91 View Post
To differentiate an emphasized word within other words that are already italicized/emphasized..
Exactly.

Happens quite often in Non-Fiction when dealing with emphasized words or book titles within italics text.

If you visually turned the whole thing italics... you would lose the original, so you flip-flop. If the original had Normal text + Italics italics, you flip to Italics/Normal.

Emphasis in Poetry

Quite often poetry/lyrics are visually displayed in all italics. But what if the original had emphasis?

Original:

- Poetry, oh poetry, where are you?

Your book, where all poetry is displayed in italics:

- Poetry, oh poetry, where are you?

Emphasis in Book Titles

As one example, a famous article/book is called "The Not So Wild, Wild West". Actual italics text in the title.

What happens when you want to cite this thing?

Book Titles must be italics in most Style Guides, so you flip-flop the italic parts.

Original Title:

- The Not So Wild, Wild West

Cited:

- The Not So Wild, Wild West

HTML:

Code:
<i>The <em>Not So</em> Wild, Wild West</i>
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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
Oh, horse pucky. NOBODY will use the Interrobang, if it's not properly in place with fonts, for print. I'm certainly not going to slap some Unicode Interrobang into a nicely-typeset document. And if it ain't in print, that matters.
🖕 that!

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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
(And fwiw, that character is very busy and icky. I kinda, maybe, like the idea, but from my perspective, it's up there with Dothraki. )
Agree. With most fonts it looks awful + too dark (doesn't match grayness of surrounding text)... and it does look a little like spaghetti at low font sizes.

But there are fonts that show the !+? in a V-shape:

https://shadycharacters.co.uk/2016/0...of-characters/

Taking a look through my fonts in BabelMap, looks like these also have that variant:

- Carlito
- Lato

And many have the shorter/longer !, which looks a little less crowded.

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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
Just b/c we're on Mobileread doesn't mean we can all pretend that the entire world is eBooks and digital fonts.
You know you love it! Just admit it!

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Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
Interesting history of the ampersand. But these days, the modern ampersand looks nothing like a ligature of E & T.
Also see:

https://shadycharacters.co.uk/2011/0...d-part-1-of-2/
https://shadycharacters.co.uk/2011/0...d-part-2-of-2/
http://shadycharacters.co.uk/series/the-ampersand/

And the octothorpe (#) morphed from "lb" with a line through it. # was pretty much a dead character too, but grew in the 1960/1970s because it was shoved on telephone keypads, then usage blew into the stratosphere with Twitter.

https://shadycharacters.co.uk/2011/0...e-part-1-of-2/

Side Note: And the lb+bar is in Unicode too, ℔ (U+2114) "L B BAR SYMBOL". Now that's a rarely used character!

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