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Originally Posted by hildea
Yes.
Also, publication date can be hard to figure out even in real time. - Is the text I'm writing here published? If I remove it next week, is it still published? If I get it commercially published in a year (as a part of "hildea's brilliant thoughts on Life, The Universe, and Everything"
 ), it is definitively published, but is the publication year 2020 or 2021?
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- YES. You created it, and you published it on the internet, on this forum. If someone else copies this text at a later date and you don't want it copied, you can make them take it down.
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- If I make a painting, display it in a public exhibition for a while, and then take it home, is it published?
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YES...of course.
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- If I make a piece of art and sell, give or loan it to you, is it published?
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again...YES, of course.
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I took a look at the Norwegian copyright law, which is called "The law about the creator's rights to works of the mind" (Lov om opphavsrett til åndsverk). The basic principle is in the title: If you create a work of the mind (defined in the law), you have certain rights to it. Publication isn't necessary to trigger those rights, and shouldn't be.
As for the discussion about the right to not publish something, I have one real life example: One of my favourite authors used to write fan fiction. When she got her first deal for original fiction to be commercially published, she informed her fans that she would take down her fan fiction, made a PDF with all her fanworks available for a limited time, and then removed it all. It's very, very obvious that if I published any part of her fanworks anywhere, I'd be going against her wishes. The law should protect her wishes regarding her works.
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Of course the law would protect her wishes regarding her works...they'd already been published, on the internet. There is NO formal process needed to publish something. Just the act of posting it to the Internet constitutes publishing.
Shari