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Old 02-20-2020, 01:30 PM   #80
murraypaul
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Same diff. You obviously can't hear yourselves. There is nothing to say after "you were a victim." NOTHING. Nothing that won't be unnecessary, condescending and insulting.
What you seem to be missing about this conversation, and I think the reason both us can't understand why the other doesn't agree, is that this isn't what we are talking about.
The discussion is about prevention, not discussion afterwards.
Here are things you can do to avoid becoming a victim.

Or do you genuinely think that crime prevention suggestions like the Met Police ones I linked to are insulting victims, and shouldn't exist?
If so, then I don't think this discussion is ever going to get any further.

Clearly they aren't going to stop all attacks, or help everybody, but they will help some people, and that is worth doing.

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And to insinuate that people can lessen their chances of being assaulted, victimized, or bullied by avoiding your own definition of "risky situations" is ridiculous, and flies in the face of evidence to the contrary.
Lessen, in some situations, for some risks, yes. Eliminate, or lessen in all situations, obviously no.
What evidence? I can link to as many police departments, colleges, schools, etc... as you like that all give basically the same advice. Are they all wrong?

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Nine time out of ten, people aren't being victimized because they took what "you" deem to be unnecessary risks. They're being victimized because they got up in the morning and went about their day.
So we shouldn't try to help the one in ten people to avoid being attacked?
You seem to be arguing that because there are some crimes that cannot be avoided, we should never give people advice on how to avoid being the victims of crime.

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