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Old 02-19-2020, 10:13 AM   #64
meeera
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If someone had taught you to scream "leave me alone, you are not my father" when someone accosted you on the crowded bus,
Indecently assaulted, not "accosted". Again, I am talking about violence, not people being mean. Not threats. Violence. And that was not something my father had ever done to me, so why would I yell "you're not my father"? I was about 12. I was frozen. I was hideously embarrassed. I assumed it must have been my fault somehow.

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Family situations is not about self defense. If we suspect there is a problem at home, we talk to the parent(s) and suggest seeking help. It's fairly rare but it happens.
Again, I'm talking about violence, not euphemistic "family situations". The parents are usually the perpetrators. What "help" would you suggest to the parents?

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We do have classes that teaches women's self defense. Those are normally taught by women instructors. They talk about how to handle dates who won't take no for an answer
Dates who violently attack them, you mean? Rapists?

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and the like as well as being accosted in public. Being in an abusive relationship is not self defense. We have professional councilors that we refer those people to. Self defense isn't being in a bad relationship.
I.AM.TALKING.ABOUT.VIOLENCE. Battering. Beating. Rape. Not "bad relationships". This is overwhelmingly the sort of violence women and children are targeted for.

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It being in a situation where you are willing to physically hurt, maybe kill the other person. Bad family situations, bad relationships, non supportive parents are all things best handled by people who train for years to handle those issues, not karate instructors.
Every single word you have said here has downplayed and minimised the violence I am talking about. You ooze minimisation, dismissal, and victim blaming. I know this is not what you want to hear, and I realise you are unlikely to listen. But this is what is happening. Jesus H Christ, dude, I'm disclosing child molestation and rape and you're wittering about "bad relationships".

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