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Old 01-20-2020, 07:26 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by jhowell View Post
The statement about two level of nesting is not exactly truthful. I took a look at a book published long ago that I know has three levels of NCX TOC (Legends B005LVO6FS) on various apps and devices running the latest software. Only two levels show on a Kindle Oasis and Kindle for iOS. However, all three levels show using Kindle for PC, Kindle for Android, a Fire tablet, and Kindle Previewer 3.
Thanks for the info. Mind taking screenshots of <h3> and deeper displaying on the various devices/apps?

So hard to get real-life info on a lot of this stuff... since their own documentation doesn't tell the exact truth.

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Originally Posted by jhowell View Post
Version 2019.2 of the Amazon Kindle Publishing Guidelines (November 2019) added a new guideline:
Thanks. Last version I had was 2019.1. Guess I'll have to scan through and see what's changed in the latest.

But this 2-levels-deep TOC is bullshit.

For example, I'm working on journals right now which typically include:
  • Year
  • Volume + Number
  • Article Title
  • 1-3 levels of headings

Yes, some of those can be condensed. Ideally, you would have:

Code:
- Vol. #, No. #.
-- Article Title
--- Heading 1
---- Subheading 2
----- Subsubheading 3
If you didn't want to go full-TOC navigation, you could remove some of the lower subheadings:

Code:
- Vol. #, No. #.
-- Article Title
--- Heading 1
that only gets you to <h3>.

... but cutting it down to 2 levels, or trying to condense even more of that information into a single heading, would just lead to actual readability issues:

Code:
- Vol. 1, No. 1: Article Title
-- Heading 1
-- Heading 2
- Vol. 1, No. 2: Article Title
-- Heading 1
- Vol. 1, No. 3: Article Title
- Vol. 2, No. 1: Article Title
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Originally Posted by jhowell View Post
So, this is a new requirement and they consider it to be important.
Anyway, in anticipation for this TOC-readjustment hell, I recommended an enhancement in the Sigil 1.0 thread.

Hopefully something along those lines gets implemented which would allow you to mass shift headings to other levels.

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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
So, they suggested archiving using The WBM or The Internet Archive,which would give you an archived page link, yes, but it also means, for longer/bigger/more complex books, doing this one page/url at a time...rather laborious.
🖕

... and the more and more of these changes occur, the more out of sync Print<->ebook becomes (which leads to a hell of a lot more headaches).

More Link Rot Rants: In many cases, websites even change their underlying structure over the years. So something like:

Code:
Old: examplenews.com/article/123.html
New: examplenews.com/full-title-of-article-is-here.html
or there's all this appended garbage to their links which means archive.org "never archived" the exact original:

Code:
examplenews.com/full-title-of-article-is-here.html#appended&garbage=1&gobbledygook&searchterms=author.concept
(Also why when I'm creating ebooks, I try to preemptively strip the URLs to their barebones.)

So it requires looking up each thing in a search engine, trying to find the latest working URL. (And speaking of... paywalls. Now a lot of the times these news articles are locked so I can't even see if it's correct!)

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