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Quoth · 11-17-2019, 07:37 AM

Also you can only buy adfree version Kindles here from Amazon. The instore models seem to all have adverts.

If you deregister a Kindle and sell it, even two years later, the new owner gets the adverts and has to pay the Amazon "fee" to turn them off. Is that even legal? Mobile Operators have to unlock for free in EU once initial period is up. I think usually a year. Though Tesco claims that if you are PAYG / Pre-pay you have to have used enough credit. But you can buy the phone and credit with cash anonymously. How do they know? Maybe IMEI (phone) or IMSI (Sim) or both?

But why would ANY ereader maker with their own store (Kobo, Nook, Tolino?, Sony in the past) want an Amazon Kindle App anyway, unless they got a cut of each sale? Hence no-one took up the Amazon "offer". Amazon will doom ereaders depending on a particular store. I think only niche models offering something Amazon doesn't have will survive. Not many people have a Kindle and a Kobo, never buy from Kobo and read their Amazon purchases on the Kobo (or some other not-Kindle). DRM is evil, did I mention it's only about market control/divide and conquer/Consumer lock in and doesn't affect industrial/commercial piracy at all?

It's not just USA. People only not buy Kindle in Countries with big Amazon sales if they are specialists, hate Amazon or some other niche reason. I know more than ten other people, well, locally that use eink, they all have only Kindles except me, and I have two Kindles, three Kobo, a Nook, Binatones and a Sony.

Most casual ebook readers use a phone. Second is tablets. The eink is third and I'd be surprised if in countries where Amazon is popular that the Kindle isn't overwhelmingly #1 in sales. Though less local retail sell Kobo or Kindle now. Possibly only Argos for Kobo. Tesco stopped doing Kindle. I don't know if Currys and Harvey Norman still do as I've stopped visiting them. Ireland retail clothes, electrical, DIY and other things are dominated by UK chains. Tesco is neck and neck with local Dunnes and Musgrave owned stores, mostly mini-markets. Lidl and Aldi are about equal next biggest. Irish wholesale is dominated by UK middle men. A lot of that is historical, to before 1921 independence.

11-17-2019, 07:37 AM	#42
Quoth Still reading Posts: 14,395 Karma: 107076273 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper	Also you can only buy adfree version Kindles here from Amazon. The instore models seem to all have adverts. If you deregister a Kindle and sell it, even two years later, the new owner gets the adverts and has to pay the Amazon "fee" to turn them off. Is that even legal? Mobile Operators have to unlock for free in EU once initial period is up. I think usually a year. Though Tesco claims that if you are PAYG / Pre-pay you have to have used enough credit. But you can buy the phone and credit with cash anonymously. How do they know? Maybe IMEI (phone) or IMSI (Sim) or both? But why would ANY ereader maker with their own store (Kobo, Nook, Tolino?, Sony in the past) want an Amazon Kindle App anyway, unless they got a cut of each sale? Hence no-one took up the Amazon "offer". Amazon will doom ereaders depending on a particular store. I think only niche models offering something Amazon doesn't have will survive. Not many people have a Kindle and a Kobo, never buy from Kobo and read their Amazon purchases on the Kobo (or some other not-Kindle). DRM is evil, did I mention it's only about market control/divide and conquer/Consumer lock in and doesn't affect industrial/commercial piracy at all? It's not just USA. People only not buy Kindle in Countries with big Amazon sales if they are specialists, hate Amazon or some other niche reason. I know more than ten other people, well, locally that use eink, they all have only Kindles except me, and I have two Kindles, three Kobo, a Nook, Binatones and a Sony. Most casual ebook readers use a phone. Second is tablets. The eink is third and I'd be surprised if in countries where Amazon is popular that the Kindle isn't overwhelmingly #1 in sales. Though less local retail sell Kobo or Kindle now. Possibly only Argos for Kobo. Tesco stopped doing Kindle. I don't know if Currys and Harvey Norman still do as I've stopped visiting them. Ireland retail clothes, electrical, DIY and other things are dominated by UK chains. Tesco is neck and neck with local Dunnes and Musgrave owned stores, mostly mini-markets. Lidl and Aldi are about equal next biggest. Irish wholesale is dominated by UK middle men. A lot of that is historical, to before 1921 independence. Last edited by Quoth; 11-17-2019 at 07:49 AM.