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Originally Posted by MGlitch

So something I haven't seen in this thread from the supporters of perpetual copyright, and treating IP as PP, especially with the case of the family farm.

You pay property tax. This is true whether you use the family farm to make money, or just as a home, or even just letting it sit unused.

That's true.

Currently, afaik, copyright holders are not charged for holding the copyright if they just let it sit,...

True again. That's because the laws are currently written that way. Nothing says those laws can't be changed.

...and even when they do something with it it's just the costs of achieving that thing.

Not sure what you're saying here.

Now it's all well and good for a copyright which has a finite life, the creator will hopefully make back enough to have made a profit for time+energy spent on the creation. But with never ending copyright they can constantly make money off something which they don't use.

Don't care if the rights holders make money or not. The relevant point is that the works belong to them, not society.

And before you start in on 'they need to work to promote the work', this isn't always the case. And will likely become less and less so with the ability to preserve their creation be it a book, or movie, or whatever, becoming easier and cheaper. Which allows it to stay in the social consciousness much easier. Thus it's possible for a creation to essentially become self sustaining.

Don't care about that point either. Again, the relevant point is that the works belong to them, not society. Even if they collect millions by sitting back and doing nothing, the fact is, they own it, period!