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The problem I think some people seem to be having is that there seems to be two different things being talked about here. One is many people's personal notions about what "YA" encapsulates, and the other is the YA that's being explicitly billed as such by publishers.
It's only the latter that I'm addressing. I have no problem with people creating their own notions about what constitutes "YA" and what doesn't. But even if you don't want to share the results, I think @hildea's sample "test" on the previous page can be a rather eye-opening (and worth-while) exercise in the wide-ranging levels of "adultness" that exists in what's being billed as YA by publishers.
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