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Old 05-10-2019, 09:52 AM   #85
ZodWallop
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Originally Posted by haertig View Post
I can't tell, was that comment addressed to my post that you quoted? Or was it a more generic comment?
It was a general comment. But...

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I don't think I complained about KU. Other than saying it wasn't for me in a post way back in this thread. While I didn't whine about KU harvesting clicks, you are correct in assuming that I don't like the practice. That is one of the reasons I leave my Kindle in Airplane Mode (not for KU specifically, but for all Amazon purchases).
Having said that, it seems to me if you don't like Amazon monitoring you, you probably shouldn't use Kindle Unlimited. There is an inherent tradeoff for having access to that firehose of streaming books.

If you don't like it, don't use Kindle Unlimited. There's nothing stopping you from moving away from Amazon entirely to Kobo.

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If Amazon wants to collect this much data (and I have no idea if they actually do or not), then they can ask me politely to have it, and pay me for it. I'm not going to give it to them (or to Google, or to Microsoft) for free. Likewise, if they want to upload data they collect on me for their corporate use, they can pony up and share the monthly bill from my ISP. I don't donate my network bandwidth to corporations for free either.
If you don't like this sort of monitoring of your usage in general, don't use the services. There's viable alternatives out there for everything. Use Duck, Duck, Go instead of Google Search. Use Firefox instead of Chrome or Edge or Safari. Use Linux or Mac instead of Microsoft Windows.

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Regarding your other comment about Amazon knowing how many pages of a book you have read:

...Well, Amazon really doesn't know. The best they know is what the current page is for a book you have. They still have no idea if you read the pages before the current page or just jumped to it randomly. And they don't know how many pages you have read if you keep your Kindle in Airplane Mode. That's why I said "it's inherently impossibly for them to determine that". They can collect data and store it over time - for example, they could log the current page and a timestamp every hour so they could see how fast you are progressing and make assumptions regarding reading or not reading based on that. This kind of data collection is getting too intrusive for me to stomach - hence me keeping my Kindle in Airplane Mode.
It feels like you're pointing to a distinction without a difference.

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