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					Originally Posted by HarryT  Have you ever used one, astra? It's beautifully engineered. It has a superb user interface. It just does the job it's designed for, and does it well. What's not to like about it? | 
	
 For me it was no FM tuner (which I use a lot) and the higher cost.  So I've been very happy with my 30 GB Creative Vision M that I've had for a couple years.  Great sound quality, nice screen, good interface and I got it for $150.
The iTouch is pretty sweet with the web surfing etc, but the 32GB model is still too expensive as I'd not pay above $200 for such a device as I'd mainly just use it as an MP3 player anyway.