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Old 04-16-2019, 08:58 AM   #55
davidfor
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Originally Posted by FrustratedReader View Post
You are missing the point, I mention the chapter progress on GUI because I wondered was it related to the new more serious bug on the annotation. It used to give chapter progress for epubs, not just kepubs. It's now book progress.
No, I got your point. It was clear. You were reporting that the progress in annotations was per-book and the progress in the footer was per-book. And this was the case even if you set the progress to per-chapter. You were clear about that. And, while you didn't explicitly state it, I took it that you were reporting that this had changed from a previous firmware version.

So, no, I don't think I missed the point.

But, you apparently missed my point, so I'll state it clearly: You are wrong.

The progress for epubs has always been shown for the whole book. This has not changed. This has NEVER changed. And it definitely hasn't changed in this firmware version. To be clear "this firmware version" refers to version 4.13.12638. On any Kobo device that it has been released for.

I did also state that the settings page where you make this choice does state that the per-chapter progress doesn't work for all books and, to quote it, "Book progress will be used instead".

If you think I am wrong, and that in a previous firmware version per-chapter progress was used for epubs, please tell me what firmware version it was.
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I'm not interested in either page numbers or chapter progress % on the GUI when reading, only book % progress makes sense. The Slider on the navigator though uses page when % would be better. I am interested in chapter % progress in annotations. It used to do it.
Sorry, but, as I have said several times now, you are wrong. The epub reader has never shown per-chapter reading progress. It has never shown chapter progress for an annotation made in an epub. But, of course, there was that six months after you installed the KoboTouchExtended driver without making any sort of attempt to work out what it did. For those six months you were reading kepubs without realising it (and complaining about bugs that no-one else could reproduce because you stated that you were reading epubs). If you thought you were seeing per-chapter progress at that time when reading, it is because you weren't reading epubs.
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Then too, the GUI used to display how many annotations added and be able to ONLY display partially read/opened books on the Home screen.
Yes, the home screen has changed. And I am on record here as stating that I don't like it and much preferred the older tiled screen. And I stated that here quite a few times. And I told Kobo what I thought of it. And I got the response I expected: There are a lot of people who found the tiled home screen ugly, confusing and hard to use. Why did I expect that? Because it exactly reflected my experience here. I spent a lot of time explaining to people how the tiled home screen worked. And when the current home screen started appearing, there were quite a few people here who stated they loved it. Because it was cleaner and easier to use.
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There have been a couple of improvements and bug fixes since I bought the Kobo H2O, but overall it's going backwards in usability and I get the impression little testing/feedback on GUI, almost none on epubs or annotations.

I've found Kobo awkward to contact and in deep denial about bugs and negative GUI changes.
Well, I have found the opposite. I have reported bugs in different ways and I know they have been fixed. As to disagreement on how the GUI works, I have also expressed opinions to Kobo, but with much less success. In this case, I know they have people working on the UI experience and most of the things are a matter of disagreeing on the choice of how to do things.

And what is hard about clicking a button on a website labelled "Feedback"? Or is the problem that you then need to make a decision about what sort of feedback to provide?
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Yet a gain the tone of your post suggests anything rubbish about Kobo's software handling of epubs is fine because they do the management of the proprietary kepubs better.
Please stop putting words in my mouth. Again. I am making no such suggestion. And I try to avoid expressing an opinion on this as I have no interest in getting into an argument about something I can have no real impact on.

What I will do is make a statement about how it currently works, or worked in the past. That is all that I have done here. There is absolutely no intention of saying whether one or the other way is better.
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It's either malicious, careless or lazy, the aspects that don't work on epubs but do work on kepubs. Kobo are not Amazon and even how Amazon is building their monopoly using their proprietary format (a moving target), dishonest review system and Kindle Unlimited which devalues books and KDP Select which cheats content providers and insists on a monopoly. I don't understand why Kobo seems to have an ambition to copy all the worst aspects of Sony, Microsoft and Amazon behaviour.
OK, there is one statement I tend to make about what Kobo does: It is up to them. It is their software and hardware. There are things I would like them to do (for example, a series list). But, in the end it is their decision on what to implement. I don't pretend to like some of their decisions understand some of their decisions, but, will occasionally try to guess.

There is one issue with offering the same functions for epubs as they do for kepubs. To support the Adobe DRM, they have to use the Adobe RMSDK. Needing to use that limits them on some of the things they can do.

As to the rest, I am completely uninterested in going there. Especially in this thread. This thread is for discussion of a particular firmware version. If you want to express your opinion of Kobo, or what they should or shouldn't do, start a thread for it. Then those of us who are not interested, can easily ignore it. Or drop in when we want a good laugh.
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