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Originally Posted by maximus83
If the discussion above is all about category (2), that is NOT the same thing as piracy, and it appears has not even been legally challenged yet, although they've been doing this for years. Remember the facts of the case: archive.org is a non-profit, buying one copy of a book and digitizing it, then loaning it to one person at a time. To meet their goal of using the web to make information globally and freely available. And the author is still getting paid. I have no problem with that UNLESS there is eventually a legal ruling against them on that issue. In that case, of course the books should come down. Unless or until that legal ambiguity is resolved, I don't feel it's fair to conflate that issue with 'piracy' and use it to label their whole effort and site. Those guys are doing God's work, they're the closest thing avialable to a library-for-all on the Internet.
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Piracy is piracy, even if you like the people doing it.
They are creating and distributing copies of copyright works without the permission of the copyright holder. That is what piracy is.