[davidfor]

Originally Posted by FrustratedReader

Do stop with the stupid insults

What insult? You have demonstrated many times you can't be bothered to read instructions, posts and details of your tools. I was asking a question.

Yeah, OK, there is some sarcasm involved here.

and defence of Kobo.

Please stop accusing me of doing something I am not doing. Or demonstrate where I am doing it.

And to be clear, there is no sarcasm intended there.

It obviously does. It offers to sort a collection by series. It displays it in two places eventually.

Yes, it is displayed and you can sort by it. But, I said "read", not "displayed". As you were complaining about how the firmware doesn't read metadata properly from books, I thought it was obvious that that is what I was talking about.

So to be clear: The firmware does not read series information from the books. The KoboTouch driver can populate this information directly into the database for books already on the device.

It does display it, but as to how it decides to eventually, I don't know. First line in the tab

As I stated clearly in my post above, and above in this post, and many, many times in this forum, the driver sets the series information directly in the database when it is next connected. It checks for any differences between the device and the calibre library, and makes the changes needed.

Yes the FW is full of bugs.

And I have never claimed that the firmware doesn't have bugs. I might disagree about whether something is a bug, or exactly what the bug is. But, I've never denied they exist.

The fake ISBN eventually gets replaced by language or Publisher followed by language.

Sorry, but before you said the fake ISBN gets replaced by the real ISBN. Are you now saying it disappear and is replaced by the language? If there is an ISBN, the language should already be there on the second line. The language is something the device reads from the book, so it should be there.

In any case, the ISBN and other metadata being updated is again, due to the driver. And is done at exactly the same time and in the same way as the series info is updated; compare the current values and update as necessary. The "fake" ISBN will be removed if the book in the calibre library doesn't have one. Assuming you have the appropriate options set.

No, that isn't exactly what happens.

Well, it is. The paragraph you put that against is a description of how the KoboTouch driver works. Your suggestion that I can't describe how the driver works is an insult. Or demonstrates my point about how little you pay attention to what is put in front of you.

You can be helpful, but too often you just defend kobo

Again, as I have asked many times, please point to where I have done this.

and rubbish what people say as ill-informed.

Again, apart from possibly the post you are quoting, point to where I am doing this. Yes, I will tell people if they are wrong, but, I object to the suggestion that I do what you are claiming.

Of course, you should practice what you preach. Your constant insistence that I am defending Kobo is a good example of your doing this. It is a tactic to try and put me down and make people not take my posts into consideration. And most of your responses in the discussion about syncing included a dig at me.

Unless you work for Kobo

I do not.

most of what you say about it's working as intended, or stuff not supported is purely your opinion.

I generally include a disclaimer like, "as far as I can tell" when I make statements like that. But, sometimes I forget. Or think it is obvious in the context. But...

Sometimes I am describing the behaviour as I see it.

And sometimes, I have explicitly asked Kobo how something works and have been told.

And sometimes, without prompting, Kobo have told me how something works.

In this particular case, it is a combination of all of these. Kobo informed me about the series info. I asked about some of the other metadata. I have done copious experiments to work out how the rest of the metadata handling currently works. That is on top of all the day-to-day usage for the last few years. Then I used all this information to code and test the driver. And inform whoever asked here.

The Kobo GUI and FW obviously does support Series and Publisher in some erratic fashion. It actually sometimes works and sorts by Series. The series info and publisher is displayed and labelled as such. But not in any consistent fashion.

Erratic and inconsistent behaviour is a bug. No matter what explanation there is for it.

And I can tell you, that it is extremely consistent here: Send some books, disconnect and let them be imported, connect again and let calibre do its stuff and disconnect again. Series info and all the other metadata is updated. Sorry, to be specific: all the metadata that the driver can update is updated.

And based on the number of reports about this here, it is obviously not any issue for other people.

And are you sure it is inconsistent? Is it possible that they get updated the next time you use calibre to send a book to the device? And, again to be explicit: the books already on the device when you send new books using calibre, get the metadata such as series info, ISBN and publishing details updated.