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Old 01-23-2019, 02:39 AM   #35
JeanPierre
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Device: Kobo Aura One
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Originally Posted by davidfor View Post
There is enough information on the settings dialog to work out what it does. Especially after someone tries it and it doesn't do what you (meaning you, JeanPierre in this case) thinks it does. And, no matter how hard everyone argues that this option should do something else, it doesn't do that thing. This is all that I have been arguing about.
Okay, if you are just saying that I should be able to work out that the option doesn't do what I expected, based on my own experience of having the option disabled and noticing that when I connect to wifi a sync I haven't prompted has been triggered, then we agree. I was able to work out that the option doesn't what I expected after it did that, which I did not expect. I was under the impression you were going a step further and saying that the language used in the settings is sufficient to infer this behaviour before having observed the device performing unexpected background syncs.

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Originally Posted by davidfor View Post
Please go back and read my posts. I have said at least a couple of times that I agree that the Sync settings page isn't completely clear. And I agree that if you quickly look at that page, it is understandable that someone might misinterpret it. But, the setting doesn't work that way. And it is unreasonable that once someone discovers that something doesn't work they way they first thought, that they don't investigate what is going on. And, as bad as the page might be, there is enough information on to work out what does if you paid any attention to what actually happened.
Agreed.

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Originally Posted by davidfor View Post
And for you example, probably not. But, that isn't the only thing on the screen. The timing of the syncs is there. And you are stretching the analogy. Without further explanation, that "free music" is downloading random free music. The sync on the devices is downloading things that I explicitly selected (paid for, chose free, added preview, borrowed from library). I would not expect the two downloads to work exactly the same. And to be honest, if you offer me "free" anything, I look for the catch.
Admittedly the analogy isn't perfect, and I am imposing my own motivation to not have the data contained my the Event table of my database transmitted to Kobo without my explicit consent. Hence the analogy attempting to make the issue about consent.

I thank you for the information you provided that details how the background syncing behaviour came about following user feedback, and that the background sync settings page predates that. I also appreciate that you're very pragmatic, knowledgeable and helpful when you post here, and want to solve problems, while some of us just want to vent and point problems out That was all I wanted to do in this case: point out something I think is a problem, and now that I have, I will leave it at that
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