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Old 01-21-2019, 08:10 PM   #15
davidfor
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Originally Posted by FrustratedReader View Post
The opposite of Background & Automatic is MANUAL. Clicking the Sync icon.
But, read the screen. Please. Think about what it says. There is nothing on the screen that relates to anything other than the "daily automatic sync". There is nothing that implies any other behaviour than what is seen. It could be clearer, but, the actual behaviour is obvious.
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You are being overly pedantic.
If being pedantic is means that I actually pay attention to the words in front of me and work out what they mean, then fine, I'm being "overly pedantic".

If we are going to call each other names, then I think "overly obtuse" should fit you.
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I don't know why you are defending Kobo's ludicrous use of sync without user selection, which can result in an automatic firmware update.
Where? Where have I defended Kobo's behaviour? I have only explained how I understand it to works. And tried to get you to pay attention to what you see in front of you.

I disagree with how little control there is over the sync behaviour. And I have expressed that to Kobo when some of it changed. And guess what, they told me why it changed. Because their customers asked them to change it. There are plenty of other behaviour I don't like. I'll discuss them when and where I think they are appropriate. But, here, I am discussing how the devices currently work. What the options actually do and mean.
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The fact that there are a choice of times for an automatic sync doesn't suggest that with this setting off that Automatic Sync (in the background) STILL happens, but at a random time. That's crazy if that is what Kobo really mean and the automatic background sync STILL occurring isn't a bug.
And there you demonstrate that you have no idea what is going on and did not read my post. NONE of the syncs are random. The ONLY sync that happens that is not in direct response to a user action is that Daily automatic scheduled sync. And that you can turn off. Every other time the device contacts the Kobo server is because the user did something. Open the book list, it checks if the list of books is up to date. Open a purchased kepub and it syncs the reading status. Close the book and it syncs the reading status. Open the Pocket articles and it syncs the list of articles. Turn on WiFi and it does a sync. None of that is random. All of it is in response to something the user did. And is bleeding obvious that it happening.

Oh, do you think it is random because it doesn't do the sync every single time you do one of these actions? Of course it doesn't. There isn't, usually, a point in doing a sync every minute. There is a minimum time between attempts to sync (the Pocket article sync is the exception and is done every time the list is opened). And of course, you can manually start the sync whenever you want.
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If what you claim is true and that by design the intention that background sync is NEVER disabled, except obviously by disabling wifi, then that is a totally wrong decision by Kobo. Actually WORSE than a bug.
And as you are stuck on the term "background sync", can you tell me how to do a "foreground sync"? You can't. Because a "foreground sync" would take over the device. It wouldn't let you do anything else. Any time the device does any sort of sync it clearly shows that it is doing but doesn't interfere with the overall use of the device.

And yes, that is me being pedantic.

Just one more thing. None of this has changed recently. This is how it has worked for years. This is how it has always worked for the Kobo device that you have. Kobo does not pretend that it works any other way.
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