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Old 08-09-2018, 12:37 AM   #63
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It was in your post, so you typed it.
Well, looking back over the context, it was in response to your comment that read:

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And I know your response will be you use 100% of the window.
And my comment was:

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That actually wasn't my response.

I hope that clears things up for you.

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If they are displaying the same information, how are they not analogous?
Well, if you don't know, you just don't know.

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In that case, check what you are typing. It is coming off as "there is only one way to do it and everyone else is doing it wrong and are idiots".
I think my way is better. I've been able to discuss the benefits so far. Perhaps there is a better way. Perhaps *it* is a better way. How will we know if we don't discuss?


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And it amazes me that you have some magical source of metadata that is perfect. Or it means you have prepared the books ahead of time to make sure that the data that is being used for the lookup the metadata is perfect. Or maybe your source for the books has already done the clean-up.
Or, none of the above.

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If that is the case, then it explains the difference in how we work. I am importing a book from some source that may or may not have an accurate title or author. Or include an ISBN.
Yea, it handles that. If it comes across a book it's unsure of, it moves it to a "uncertain" directory.

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You just need to look at the inconsistent titles used by the shops and other sources. I first need to fix those details.
You aren't hearing me. Regardless of the source, after the scripts are done, the title is the same.

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And only then can I expect to get the right metadata from the metadata sources I use. And even then, those sources can be inconsistent. The series name is the most common problem (Ben Aaronovitch has a series that is called "Rivers of London", "Peter Grant" or "PC Peter Grant" depending on the source).
Still not hearing me.

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All that makes me amazed that your scripts are perfect and need no intervention.
I'm sorry you live in such a bleak and deary world that an automated script working as intended is greeted with amazement.

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You are happy with your scripts. I am happy with my methods. Maybe if I was interested in collecting millions of books I would have to change the process. But, I am only collecting books that I have some expectation of reading in the near future. I rarely add more than a couple of books at a time.
What makes you think I'm not reading the books I'm collecting? I have lots of time since I don't have to worry about manually editing metadata.



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But, that isn't how I choose a book. Yes, sometimes I go looking for the next in a series or an author or a particular book. But, I'm much more likely to be after a genre or style or something. Generally, I look at the list of books and see what catches my eye. It might be the title, the author or the series.
Yea, I do the same. This is no impediment to that at all.

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Or I filter the list a bit based on something. And in the past when I did this with paper books, it might be the cover (or simply what was easy to grab on my way out the door for my commute to work when I remembered I was nearly finished my current book). Something catches my attention and I look at the details. Using calibre or my ereader, it is easy to read the synopsis and maybe a quick glance at the tags. And maybe the page count if I'm after a quick read. The choice of a book to read is based on my mood and seeing some that fits that. That doesn't work well with the file listing, unless, as I suggested, that file name was several thousands of characters long.
More power to you.


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Of course, maybe the problem is that we don't have the benefit of your "perfect" scripts. We have to stick with the terrible tools and processes that we have available. How about you publish your scripts so that we can all see the light?

Well, first of all, again, they aren't "my" scripts. I've adapted them to my needs. Second off, check the thread, the git-repo is listed.

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