View Single Post
Old 02-28-2009, 02:56 AM   #54
Seabound
Steerage Class
Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Seabound ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Seabound's Avatar
 
Posts: 711
Karma: 505995
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pacific Northwest, USA
Device: Won't fit here anymore, see sig for a list of liseuses.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate the great View Post
And how exactly did Bush screw up? It can't be Gitmo; Obama isn't going to shut it down. It can't be warrantless wiretapping; Obama isn't going to stop it either. And I'm sure we can agree that the invasion of Afghanistan was necessary.
Do you intend to deliberately mislead, or are you just expressing your cynicism? Because everyone knows Obama has signed an executive order to close the Guantanamo detention facility within a year. And Bush actually neglected Afghanistan, that's why it's now necessary to shore up the troops there.

You want screw-ups? How about the response to Hurricane Katrina for one?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate the great View Post
I didn't say all; I said most. And the whole point of that was to put Bush's mistakes in a historically accurate perspective. It is not valid to criticize Bush alone when his predecessor or successor agreed with his goal or action, especially when they are of different parties.
Oh, forsooth! I hardly think Bush's predecessor or successor would have conjured invading Iraq under the pretense of Iraq's capability for producing weapons of mass destruction, and for the promotion of which he sent his loyal secretary of state to the U.N. security council to make a dramatic (non)presentation of the case for the existence of such weapons, in seeming contradiction to the report of the chief U.N. weapons inspector. A presentation which I watched and, having done so, made me scratch my head for I saw nothing convincing in the presentation. Criticizing Bush's actions, motivations, mistakes, incompetence solely in the miserable light of his two-term presidency is a perfectly valid thing to do.
Seabound is offline   Reply With Quote