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Originally Posted by haertig
RMFP, please.
I never said it didn't happen. I said we don't know which version happened. I was speculating on two possible versions: Did Amazon have prior knowledge of it happening and allowed it, or did Amazon find out after the fact that it was happening and is now trying to correct something that they just learned about? You can't tell from the article. One one hand, the article says Amazon "admits ...", which implies guilt of some sort. But then the article goes on to say that Amazon said their auditors found it and they are now trying to correct it. That implies Amazon is not at fault and is trying to right a wrong.
Add to that the current state of our media and what they are doing, and "Amazon admits ..." as a headline cries out "click me, click me!" You've got to find out what the real truth is before passing judgement. And that is extremely difficult to do given our current media.
So how do YOU want to interpret the headline?
Workers not paid legally by Amazon contractor in China
or
Workers not paid legally by Amazon contractor in China
The article doesn't give you the information you need to make an informed decision. In a nutshell, I implied that my mind is not made up regarding who's at fault yet, because I don't have the facts. Don't conflate that with denying that something happened.
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Sounds like the same doomcrying when the stories broke about Apple clamping down on their contractors in China for violating both the terms of their contracts with Apple and Chinese labour law with little mention that it was Apple's regular audits that caught the violations. It makes a much better story and/or clickbait if that part of the story is minimized.
In this case, the Guardian reported that Amazon had detected issues during an audit in March, 2018 and had requested a corrective action plan from Foxconn Hengyang. From the
Amazon Profits from Secretly Oppressing its Supplier’s Workers pdf from China Labor Watch, it appears that many of the violations they detected were during the March/April timeframe. Their letter to Amazon in the .pdf is dated 2018-May-04. Amazon's response to that letter is also in that pdf though it is undated.
As for your playing word games with the "Workers not paid legally by Amazon contractor in China", can you produce any evidence that the workers at a Chinese contract manufacturer were not paid by the contractor? That the contractee paid them directly?