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Old 06-03-2018, 08:15 PM   #32129
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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
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I'm going to say this, but before I do, I want to clarify that this /rant isn't directed at anyone here, or their choices. A crewmember of mine recently went through something, on all this cost with someone dying, and it's really been up my nose ever since.

It is unconscionable for people to expect/want/etc. any sort of funeral expenses, get-togethers, ceremonies, and so forth, and have their relatives shoulder the burden of that. My assistant just went through this, first having to pay her mum's hospital bill (or they wouldn't release the body!), by 50% (for a major, nearly-two-week-stay in the ICU/CCU). and THEN, pay for the funeral, the wake, the graveside service, the bloody headstone, and so on.

This came on the heels of both her boys getting some bizarro-world illness--the younger nearly died--and spending, yup, another two damn weeks (BOTH of them) in the hospital, and her insurance hardly covered any of it. Suffice to say, she's had a mother of a year.

I tried to convince her not to do all that. To cremate her mum--but her uncle, mum's brother, right?--kept calling her up, RANTING at her about doing the "wrong thing." (Cremation--religious beliefs against same.) She finally ended up not doing all of it, but, still. And did ranty Uncle contribute a PENNY? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, of course not.

If people want these elaborate ceremonies, fine--but they should bloody well make arrangements to pay for them, IN ADVANCE, and not bankrupt their grief-ridden relatives. It's, as I said, unconscionable. My grandparents, as it happened, ended up with unused plots--but bygod, they had them, with a small policy to pay for the services, just in case we (the remaining folks) couldn't manage it. We did, and it wasnt a problem, but...

If Mr. H goes, and I'm broke, well, tough cookies. I'll try to bail his ass out of wherever it is, and get him cremated, but that's it. Ditto for me. Honestly,he could leave me and let the damn state burn me and plant me in potter's field, for all I care. (related semi-rant--it boggles me that we continue to waste all this valuable dirt, putting chemical-filled bodies in metal and wooden coffins, taking up space, instead of either a) burying the bodies, as-is, and letting them decompose as they OUGHT, giving BACK to the dirt, or b) cremating them and then burying the ashes, ditto.).

I watch my assistant, and some other folks, and I just don't get being that "guilted" into spending money you do NOT have, for services you can't afford, for which the deceased can't be there, any-g*ddamned-way. If your mum/dad/brother/whatever needs to be handled, either do what you can, or don't do anything, or pass the hat to your remaining relatives--ALL of them. Even a few bucks will help. Don't put yourself into penury, paying for this nonsense. Want a day of remembrance? Fine, have it at home with chips and dip and some booze/soda/whatever. Don't let morturaries and the like talk you into this stuff, OR your relatives.

/rant.

Hitch
My mom was the one who signed the papers but mom is in a nursing home now so it falls on to me to get the funds so nothing happens to my sister's body. My brother in Canada paid half, my other brother has given nothing and has picked the house clean of anything he can sell on eBay. Technically the state of Missouri without a Will gives all parents and siblings a share of the estate but it's supposed to go to probate first. I don't see anyone paying off the taxes on the house so more than likely what will happen is next spring it will be repossessed by the county and sold. I don't want anything from that toxic place. Just going through a box of papers to find my mom's buriel insurance certificate put me in bed for a week. I must have breathed something in that was on the papers. The place needs to be bulldozed, the soil healed somehow before someone else lives there.

I agree with your rant which is why life insurance and a Will are necessary to have so your loved ones aren't stuck trying to pay for everything.

I'm so sorry about your friend's hardships. Grief is the worst thing to deal with on top of everything else. Having to do it all is never easy. That wonderful numbness that happens at first... I think it is our brain's way of protecting us and letting us get everything accomplished we need to because for me the day after everything was finally done suddenly the numbness turned into pain. I was render inoperable for a few days after that.

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