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Old 01-30-2018, 05:13 AM   #31802
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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
Seriously, what makes you think that exists? Who has that type of workplace?

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I did, once, at an internship.

That manager was one of the very few people who understood software engineering or, more accurately, creation of a product from scratch.

I told him that, if I said creating Functionality X would take +/- 10 working days, then it WOULD take two weeks give or take a day or so, and there was no point in trying to get me to do it in less, because he'd either pay with having no documentation, or lesser quality and less testing.

I also told him that trying to talk to me while I was behind the computer was a very bad idea. (Reason)

He understood. He accepted my schedule, advice with regard to software and hardware setups, and never asked a single question when I was busy. He always waited until I went for coffee, which would be 6-8 times a day; that was the point where I finished something and took a break for 10 minutes before starting the next task.

I delivered a product that is still in use today, and is still maintained. It's a custom content management system from the days where PHP4 was -just- being replaced by PHP5. Think 2005-2006. Wordpress wasn't what it is today; not by a LONG shot. I took a chance by actually putting PHP 5.x into production about half a year after its initial release. I can see its still the same system, because my name is still in some of the Javascript files as one of the authors.

Best workplace ever. Also, best manager ever. The one place I have been where people understood creating stuff. It was a company that did industrial automation, so they had some mechanical engineers employed.

At the end of my traineeship, the owner retired and put his son in charge (who's around my age). He asked me to stay and work on machinery instead of the CMS, as I actually specialized in industrial automation, and not in web development. (There wasn't a traineeship in Industrial Automation at that time.)

The only problem was that, compared to his father, the son was an idiot. He offered me minimum wage, while a starting university-level software engineer would normally earn around €300-400 more at most companies, so I didn't take that 'offer'.

The company still exists, but it's a lot smaller now.
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