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Old 01-07-2018, 12:09 PM   #86
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Originally Posted by alcedo View Post
Your stance is a little bit naive. I don't know which country you live in, but clearly you don't know much about China. The "full flexibility" is exactly the problem.
China believes that AI working on Big Data will solve all problems of mankind and is indispensable to achieve what they call "social stability".
Therefore they plan to merge all data whatsoever into one huge database, so it's a matter of course the government needs access to all data whatsoever.
They plan to rank every citizen depending on his behaviour, what in turn will be used to decide about his admission to whatsoever.
In the near future they want to turn smartphones into identity cards, it's a app made by wechat, no question that nearly everybody right now is paying with smartphone nearly everywhere.
So clearly with that policy you would want all data to live in the "cloud", and what from our liberal western stance is "full flexibilty" in chinese eyes might turn into treason.
Given the fact that every chinese company as of recently has the obligation to house a cell of the ruling party, you shouldn't assume that decisions in chinese companies are driven by motives solely taken from a western idea of free enterprise.
In fact, so called "western values" are explicitely condemned by the acting president in the same way it had been the case in the late 80ths.

And what I'm telling here is no FUD, it is real. You can verify it easily.
Being myself a die-hard liberal, you might image that I also could classify the above with terms that are not so cautious. But bottom line is that this alternate reality should be taken into account. And the solution would be to produce elsewhere, but obviously there is also still an enormous creativity there decided to do what nobody else does.
Well, its simpler than that really.
(no need for conspiracies yet)

Integrated storage (while it's bad for nature) allows for better profit margins at premium levels.

I will start to worry in a future of integrated batteries and mandatory integrated storage and cloud sync.
Chinese factories rely on open source and external IP.
So this future you paint is not likely anytime soon. (so we are safe until next week)

Oh and at least the ruling elite in China know about AI. Which is more than we could say for most of our politicians.

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