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Originally Posted by jhowell

I know that this plugin isn't especially useful right now given the continued availability of KF8 and the lack of automatic DRM removal for KFX. But I thought it would be best to be prepared in case this capability is needed in the future.

It has been two years now, that the format is autodelivered onto every Kindle, and Amazon is able to funnel and protocol users that might care about anything else besides an Amazon account login. "Needed" strangely is an over- and understatement at the same time.

Originally Posted by odamizu

Absolutely! Hopefully KF8 and EPUB will continue to be available and accessible for a long time to come, but it gives me great comfort knowing your plug-in (and the Pascal decrypter) exists, just in case. for all your time and effort.

Doesnt understand, that its much more likely that Amazon will rollout an overnight patch and redownload their users books in the background over time - if this ever gets into widespread use. The thing they established with kfx also is a soft format rollout, on an always online device, with customers proclaiming loudly "i dont want to understand what a format is anymore - I like easy and features" (Oh how they loved their ligatures... Well, actually they didn't understand what those were, but they loved the featureness of it. And that they would get something new for free.).

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

Thank you very much, perhaps some of the things which you say they limit its usefulness will disappear in a near future.

Doesnt understand why this was rolled out, or any of the structural implications (or why things were designed the way they were) that are at the core of this. But sure wants more easy.
Thinks "limitations will just "disappear" - maybe?". (Is there a god!?)

@jhowell: Thank you very much for your work over the last two years to get the format pried from Amazons control.

Thank you even more for actually recommending to people to not use your work if they dont absolutely have to - and laying out, obviously to many for the first time ever, what the structural implications of the .kfx format actually are.

You are an idealistic saint.

Balls now in Amazons corner.

But they already have almost the entire playfield and limited all possible actions to "no one will want to use that or associate with them", so I think we are good for a while?

Please tell the people in here that still dream of more easy - that implementing a format into "default" Calibre, that would first need a scraper to gather 10 files from program directories it doesnt have rights to access, then bundle them to push to a deDRM routine, thats needed, because DRM this time isnt just a layer, but an integral part of the format (8 bits of header readable without un-encrypting?), then do that with every book thats ever in that format - because DRM isnt just an option, its the thing -- to be able to even read something resembling METADATA -- doesnt seem like a likely trajectory that Calibre will take in the future.

Heres the jinx. Calibre is an eBook curation and conversion plattform. So, when you are looking at those 12 files in different folders, with cryptic filenames, and try to figure out which ones to grab - do any of you stop for a moment and wonder what they were willing to buy in that instance?

I still have a hard time coping, how the transformation of an ecosystem was possible within weeks, with most people just being concerned about "that talking about it could make others love their Amazon less" and doing everything in their power to distract from the changes to the ecosystem that actually took place here.

I cant stomach the unfounded cheers and "would be great if more easy" culture, thats even part of this thread. This one had to be confronted on a public initiative level. With plattforms like blogs or mobileread, maybe being less concerned about their Amazon affiliate link monetisation, and more about what eBooks would become in the now present future.

They werent.

And this is the best you can hope for.

Which is something none of you is willing to use if we are honest. And for good reasons.

Thank you again @jhowell that you had the drive to stick with it till the end and the willingness to explain to people what this means. This is now my pointed translation for the laymen, that still thinks that all of this will become more easy again - any time now.

What percentage of people still "free" their books by having an old version of K4PC installed that Amazon can deactivate any day, or by still logging into the Amazon webpage on a PC, every time they want to download a book in a legacy format?

90+% of "eBooks" used in the Amazon ecosystem are KFX right now, everything else is wishful thinking. Lets hear it for an industry that made none of you care about the format anymore. Except a handful of idealists.

And sure enough, none of you will care enough to grab a relatives Kindle, and actually get all of the kfx Books they currently have on there, and make archivable copys of them. In the currently open window, where this is still possible.

Lets hear it for jhowell investing another two years, after Amazon rolls out kfx 2.0 in a few months time, without even changing the format designation, because they dont have to, because you all granted them the permission of being the sole creator and distributer, of the electronic "books" you buy, on those device that always redownload your books without even notifying you.

So if Amazon changes a book, and no one is there to even notice anymore - does the original even exist?

(Is the guy, that proudly owns a Kindle Oasis, a Kindle Voyage and some Apple devices, that publicly "hopes" that the still usable legacy formats "will exist for a long time to come", really the glowing example of the "influencers" this community was able to produce?

So, now that we were all part of the historic period where Amazon changed what electronic Books are, how does it feel, that from now on, its never to be as good as it was?

Blog journalism failed ehen it was needed the most, and customer advocacy wasnt something that the enthusiast communities saw as being "worthwhile"... ("It lacked that "anouncementy" character - so I didn't share it on facebook?"))