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Old 11-01-2017, 05:23 AM   #32
MikeB1972
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Originally Posted by pwalker8 View Post
That's because all the cool kids have a Mac!

Rather than write a bunch of posts, I'll use this to answer several of your posts.

First, gay couples have been a thing in YA for a good 20 years, though they are usually female and it's not explicit. A good example is Tamora Pierce's Circle series where the adults that the kids live with is rather obviously a lesbian couple. That dates back to the 1990's. Female protagonist as warriors goes back a lot longer than that. Gay males are a bit more unusual, but I can point to a number of well known books (Lackey's Valdemar series and Bradley's Darkover series) that have gay males as main characters.

PC isn't just a code word for LBGT, PC is more of a mind set. It's making sure that you have just the right mix of minority characters, rather than have characters who just happen to be a minority. It's everyone having the same mindset and no one questions that mindset. There is no real subtly. I suspect that one of the reasons Harry Potter was so popular is because as the series progresses, we go from black and white, to a whole lot of gray.
Agreed, I think the main problem people have is the nutty fringe that go ape if you don't include <minority de jour> characters, when you hear a lot of that you tend to notice the characters that are there more.

I remember reading James Alan Gardeners Expendable series back when it was released in the late nineties and just thought they were good books, re-reading them last year I couldn't help but notice the PC/diversity slant - Still good books though .

So, to sum up, I don't think it's the inclusion of the characters in books that is the problem, it's the shouty PC brigade that insist that all books should be diverse.
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