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Old 09-16-2017, 07:57 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Cinisajoy View Post
It isn't just web developers.
I try not to think that. I mean...it makes me feel like the old saw about how older folks are ALWAYS bitchin' about younger, and all that, but I tend to agree with you. The concept of "customer service" seems to have gone utterly out of the window, in the last few years or decade or so.

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Originally Posted by skb View Post
You've just summed up my over 15 years of professionally dealing with web developers. Especially when getting them to work on Joomla! or Wordpress (or, in one hideous case, Drupal). And whatever they do, it's not documented or fully checked for security, so when you get someone else to do something they "can't possibly use the previous work" because...reasons. Sigh.
So, now, if what I need can't be done "out of the box" or using a module or plugin (that has been updated in the last three months), I don't use it.

I do NOT GET IT. Why the hell is it so hard to find a competent, reasonably attentive web person? I mean...I get that "In The Beginning..." finding web dudes was a chore, and the sort of people drawn to making websites, programming, etc., probably means that they're not social butterflies, to begin with. I realize, yes, that's a stereotype, but, perhaps, not an unearned one, yeah?

It's as though you either pay absurd rates, through the nose, so that people will actually respond on time, or you're STUCK with every damn nut and flake on the planet. WHY??? Why is it so goddamned hard for them to even pretend that they'll act like grownups? I don't understand it but if anyone in that line of work would get their head out of their strata chocolata, and set up a decent small biz that is responsive and reasonably priced, they'd likely clean up.

As far as plugins that work, out of the box? Ho, don't make me laugh. I wasted an hour today, putting an article with a small, 4-image "picture gallery" (for sample images) in to my /dev site. (I keep two sites, one a development site, one the "real" site). Worked like a charm. Hooray. Then I copied everything to the live site. Now, ask me--do you think it worked? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. The gallery just arbitrarily and inexplicably does. not. work. I have triple-checked all the settings, and nothing is different--but the freaking gallery won't work.

It probably means that there's some js conflict, someplace, that I don't know about, or...whatever. But the minute you move past a simple Wordpress site, trying to keep a decently-sized, reasonably complex site alive is remarkably difficult, if you think you can count on plugins, that's all I have to say.

URGGGGG.




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