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Old 07-06-2017, 05:03 PM   #71
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First - Rights matter. More than "how does Amazon know, that someone has died - and impromptu account sharing solutions, that might work". So why shouldn't we ask for rights, we only just lost, when books became digital - and half of the users in here haven't even realized, they've lost, because nobody told them.

Second - On facebook, its at least something you "created" (but never owned), on Amazon its something an industry sells you. So don't get too romantic in your thought experiments.

Third - remove DRM, make it a good instead of an access license, then for the first time, retain something resembling "rights of ownership", is the only answer thats reasonable giving, really.

Fourth - I despise the self depricating thats going on in here in order to downplay the importance of this issue (Amazon as a custodian of our written culture?), because "your children wouldnt touch your books" or "you wouldn't want to leave them with the burden to throw out physical books" dismantling the basis of public culture (= something the public owns), is hardly a solution.

Fifth - If I hear the convenience argument in a discussion about digitized goods one more time, I dont guarantee for my behavior anymore. Here is how this works. Digitization lowers production cost, distribution cost, storage cost, YOU pay for your internet (the distribution part), so digitization simply is technological progress. The "convenience plus" you find so special about it, is not something you should become accustom paying for - because it just came out of the whole "everyone now has internet" thing for free. The publisher creating the ebook, and you paying for the internet are 95% of what is needed to realize that convenience. So every argument that tries to pull you in the direction of "you have to give up ownership rights in exchange for convenience" is an outright lie. And I dont like to argue for lies, and I sincerely hope you don't like to either...

Also - laws and contracts are important. So if you see the need for them, please talk about it. As of right now - you are paying for non transfarable usage licenses (that sometimes can be temp lent "family sharing").

That so many of you dont know that, is an issue as well. Reminds me of the previous discussion that ended in a "oh, its not a problem at all" verdict, despite that not being true...

Also, I see people in here talking about how much they love free, for their grandchildren... How great.

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