[Tex2002ans]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Yes. As others have already noted: that IS the metadata editor. Highlight entries with the mouse and click "Remove" to delete entries. Add new entries by clicking "Add Metadata". Add properties to existing entries by clicking "Add Property". Modify existing data by double-clicking in its "Value" Field. Why do you believe that it's not working?

This newer Metadata Editor has been bugging me for quite a while now, but I couldn't put a finger on it (besides just being very frustrating to use).

I woke up from a nap today and I think I put a finger on a few other angles.

I think the BIGGEST enhancement would be hiding a lot of the "dc:technical-speak".

Let me lead everyone through a journey though...

First of all, a pic of the old editor:



#1: Easy Access

Old Sigil

You clearly had a distinct section for the important metadata that MUST belong in every EPUB:

1. Title
2. Language
3. (Author isn't a MUST, but 99.9% of the people using Sigil would be adding this)

Those three important choices were treated differently from the rest, and it was clear AT A GLANCE to see if they were missing + wrong.

And remember Average Joe. They can EASILY see those two boxes + a dropdown.

Side Note: The Title/Author/Language was also in a consistent location, no matter which book you opened. Very helpful. Especially when dealing with lots of books from different sources (see horror image at the end of the post).

New Sigil

Now you are an Average Joe and open it:



I have zero guidance. Looks like a giant blank box. I have no clue what any of this stuff is. It looks alien.

#1.5: Very Easy Language

Old Sigil

Language was actually in a human-readable dropdown!



If I was working on an Abkhazian book, I click the dropdown, scroll to the whichever language I need, and BAM, there it is.

New Sigil

Again, imagine Average Joe. You have a blank screen written in alien.

Only word I understand on this thing is "language", but what the heck is "dc:language"?

Well I might as well click the first button on the screen.

I actually click "Add Metadata" and stumble upon Language in the list:



This is great, very similar to the old dropdown! Now I pick Abkhazian:



Uh oh, now there are two "dc:language"s...

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What would I do as a technical person? I instinctively just jump right to the box next to "dc:language" + manually type in the HTML lang code.

I sure as heck have no idea that Abkhazian is "ab" (or I may just completely botch typing it in because I have fat fingers). So instead, I would go looking it up here:

https://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_language_codes.asp

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Side Note: The old dropdown was also human-readable AT A GLANCE. What if I come back to this book two months from now?

Quick!

dc:language "ae"



In new Sigil, if I was staring at a giant list of metadata and saw "ae", my eyes would gloss right over it. (See horror image at the very end)

In old Sigil, you would see "Avestan" in the Language dropdown:



#2: Human Readable

The old one hid a lot of the "dc:technical-speak".

Old Sigil

Step 1: Typed in Title + Author in their boxes.

Add Basic:

Step 2: Press "Publisher"? "Publisher" appears right next to the box.
Type it in the box.

Step 3: Press "Rights"? "Rights" appears right next to the box.
Type it in the box.

Add Role:

Step 4: Press "Artist"? "Artist" appears right next to the box.
Type it in the box.

Step 5: You pick something real obscure like "Programmer"? "Programmer" appears right next to the box.
Type it in the box.



Okay, I finally figured out all the stuff:



New Sigil

Add Metadata:

Step 1: "Publisher"? "dc:publisher" appears right next to the box.
Step 2: "Rights"? "dc:rights" appears right next to the box.

Okay, those are understandable at least, but the "dc:" is a little scary...

- - - - -

Add Property:

Step 3: Press "Add Property".

As an Average Joe, this menu IS complete gobbledeegook:



(Heck, even for me it is hard to understand and I know the specs.)

Let us say he actually DOES figure out what he wants is found in "Role". Oh crap:



I accidentally had dc:title highlighted and it added some stuff.

Okay, deep breaths Joe! Deep breaths! Now how the F do I add a Programmer?

Say what? You want me to press:

- Press "Add Metadata"
- Press "Contributor"
- Left Click on the new "dc:contributor" box to make sure it is highlighted
- Press "Add Property"
- Press "Role"
- Press "Programmer"
--- opf:role "prg" shows up

What? WTF is "prg"?

Finally, you may finally get this:



Compare that to the old Sigil (and I didn't even expand the dropdowns in New Sigil [see horror image at very end]).

Side Note: And again, imagine you are coming back to this EPUB two months from now. You have absolutely NO CLUE what "opf:role prg" stands for.

#3: Fitting to the Window

We all know about those absolutely giant descriptions Calibre shoves into books... :P

Here is Old Sigil vs. New Sigil:



Now both are really crappy when trying to edit these behemoths, but at least the old Sigil squished it horizontally so it was all readable AT A GLANCE.

Being able to edit such large ones would be a helpful tweak.

Currently the new Metadata Editor has the giant horizontal bar that you have to use to even READ the thing... plus it makes navigating a pain. Sometimes adding in a new Property/Role and the bar shifts to the right by itself.

At that point, I just edit directly in the content.opf file.

#4: Alternating Lines/Something Between Distinct Metadata

It was clear seeing what was associated with what in the old Sigil.

In the new Sigil, it can quickly become a mishmash (see horror image at end):



Also, did the highlighting in the new Metadata Editor get lighter? Maybe it's the missing lines between rows? I must admit, I thought there WAS no alternating colors in the new editor until I saw the little thumbnail of my PNGs. But in Old Sigil I could tell rows apart perfectly.

Side Note: Did you see what I did there with the Title/Author/Language? :P

Finale

I think we can boil it down to two of the largest changes:

1. Get rid of the "dc:technical-speak" and go back to human-readable.

MAYBE you could click on the human-readable name, and you get access to the dc:stuff if you needed to manually tweak it for some reason.

2. Put the 2 MUST HAVES (or 3 if you include Author) in a prominent+consistent spot. They are going to be in every single EPUB no matter what.

Maybe give them different color highlights and move them to to the top all the time to make them stand out. (Maybe RED if they are blank + GREEN if they are filled.)

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Bonus Points: Now tell me, who is the Title + Author + Language of this book?



Extra Super Bonus Points: Let me know what roles the other names are!