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Old 04-25-2017, 02:04 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by BetterRed View Post
Just copy Normalvertu.dotm to Normal.dotm.

As I said before the name of the default template is fixed as Normal.dotm, you might not like it that way, but that is the way it has been for a very long time. The genesis of Word goes back to Xerox's Alto Bravo which was released in the mid '70's.

Look up Charles Simonyi who worked on Bravo, was head hunted by Gates, and headed up the Office division (the MS cash cow) for a long time. He left MS a few years ago and started up Intentional Software, which he sold to MS last week for an undisclosed sum.

Probably enough to pay for another couple of holidays on the ISS, build a new house (this one is getting a bit cramped), and park a fleet of these in exotic locations

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Well....

I haven't gotten very far, in my investigation, but the fact that there's a STYLE, named "Police par defaut" in the Word file might have something to do with this. I tested V4, simply by exporting it to HTML, and sure enough, I found the spans. The spans are reflecting "underlying properties," apparently.

This style does NOT appear in the V3.odt file. Not as the .odt; not when I convert it to Word, and not when I export it to HTML.

Something is being done, in the process that alters the V3 file. It's not being done in Word.

Something is altered, in the (macro?/clip?) that you're running, to do whatever it is, between the time you complete 3, and then use that program to make your typographic changes. That alteration is changing something that in turn, causes these spans--which are showing up quite simply becuase there's a named style. Just open the Styles panel, on the right (or wherever you open it) and scroll down, you'll see it right there.

So, as near as I can tell, having opened the file (v3), altered it, typed in it, etc., saved it and exported it to HTML--no Police-whatever spans are being created. It's not Word, in and of itself--it's that "nice program" that you're using.

If I were a betting woman...I'd wonder if it's not related to how the French create various letter forms. Or ligatures, etc. Something that doesn't just show up as a font change.

Offered FWIW.

I'm not sure if your last post, about "just knowing your tools" was related to my question about mapping styles, but you're doing something wrong. It shouldn't be remotely this hard to just map odt styles to Word, using reserved names like Heading 2, etc. BetterRed and Toxaris have WAAAAAY better macro-fu and VBA-fu than i do, and can probably help you with a faster way to do that, but this should be MUCH easier than what you've described.

Hope that helps. And you might want to ask BR or Tox to look into that Macro, too, because 99%, that's causing the Police par dfaut spans. I'm a little surprised, to be honest, that you didn't notice the named style--which is always the very FIRST place I look for the appearance of mystery spans. 99x out of 100, when it comes to Word output, a span doesn't simply appear. It's the offspring of a named Style.

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