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Originally Posted by ApK
I see that particular part of the conversation more as analogous to:
"I like rotary dials on phones, so smartphone makers should add them."
"You will be better off learning to adapt to the new ways of using a phone."
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The more exact analogy would be:
"I'm going to dial home."
"Now that rotary phones are defunct, you can't use the word "dial" anymore."
Page number is just a handy term adopted to mark a consistent amount of digital text, in this context. Easily understood. ADE page numbers are just a useful measure, but neither such tiny increments as Amazon locations which are inconsistent anyway, nor so large as not to allow meaningful calculations. Change the name, If that would make you feel better. But people are going to continue to dial on their smart phones.
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with the one exception of discounting end matter and forwards and stuff, as you say, and that could be accomplished in ways other than misapplying static artifacts from paper books.
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That's a major dismissal, a wave of your hand. How? Would it be as easy? As useful? Again, I just want something that measures text in meaningful increments across all my books.
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So the conversation really boils down to "what value do you get, and can you get the same value without them."
If the answer is nothing more than "I just want them," then, yes, thr comversation on both sides is pointless.
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Or, again, "I'm hung up on terminology and I have no use for them; end of conversation." Because my answer was specific in regard to value and you pulled out a prolix "That's stupid," without offering an alternative.