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Old 12-10-2016, 06:51 PM   #29208
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[QUOTE=DMcCunney;3440975]It's possible, though how he managed to avoid it is an interesting question

No sh**t, right? An Irishman? Crap, they can throw a stone and hit the Brit film studios.

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I never was a fan of Doctor Who. I recall the early BBC episodes, characterized by low budgets and cheesy effects. More recent productions have had better budgets and good performances, but I simply never got caught up in the world.
Ah. See, I was a fan--not rabid, but I looked forward to it--of the old cheesy show. I was residing in the slums of Santa Barbara, at the time ('82-83?), didn't know anyone, etc., and it came on every Thursday night, on my local PBS, w/o fail. To this day, there are certain old PBS tunes that make me look for DW. :-) I "found" the series at the same time that the Tom Bakers were running here, and didn't get to see the originals (with the Doctor's granddaughter!) until many years later. For me, it's associative, rather than a devotion to the show itself, I feel.


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As mentioned, it was my favorite TV show, period, when it was on. It was possibly more effective in reruns when it was picked up on cable, and you could see an episode a night. It made what Joe referred to as "holographic" scripting more effective, when something you saw but didn't pay much attention to in a previous episode suddenly gained significance, and you said "So that's what was going on!". Episodes nightly made that more effective.

B5 was one of the very few shows I ever saw that could make me cry.
The long-suffering spouse was flabbergasted to see me get weepy-ish, about Bab5. He's seen me cry, in more decades than I want to confess to, literally a handful of times. Seeing me get girly about a TV show? His response to that would be "Inconceivable!," if he actually did PB references. :-)


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I'm not the only person who thought Andreas Katsulas deserved an Emmy for his portrayal as G'Kar. Managing to convey that level of emotion while covered in all that latex was a notable feat. He had been typecast previously as a heavy, but told his agent "I want in on this!" when offered the role of G'Kar. Stracyzinski agreed. B5 had been nominated for "below the line" awards for FX and the like, but he felt the cast never got the recognition they deserved.
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Dennis
Ditto, ditto, and ditto. Not to mention, JMS being keen enough to NOT fall into the ST trap--aliens that look like humans = good, and aliens that don't, = bad. I remember the first time, watching it, that I keyed to the idea that JMS *had* planned so far ahead, and that was fabulous.

(I actually had high hopes for Crusade, but, of course, back in the olden days when niche markets were blithely dismissed...well, it was blithely dismissed. Of course, I may have been influenced by the good looks of that one guy, the Brit, rather than the actual quality of the show.)

Sci-Fi routinely gets short shrift in TVland. Whether it's Bab5, struggling for continued existence, year after year, or Firefly, which never got the chance, or Farscape, having to be exhumed and fixed (ending-wise)....and I don't know WHAT it is, but I've seen series after series just killed off because one minute, it has excellent writers, and then, some other idiot is brought in, and you can bet your bippy that they'll either bring in the overly-tired "evil twin" plotline (always a dead giveaway that your show is struggling and will be axed soon), or the "main characters are suddenly in the future" plotline (yeah, I'm talking to YOU, Fringe, on both fronts!), etc.

{sigh}. I think about the only thing that SF fans can hope for is that the advent of niche streaming TV will allow for the Bab5s, Farscapes, FFs, etc., to survive, and gain the traction and audience that they deserve.

Or, hell, maybe I am stupid, and the audience really DOES only want those godawful reality shows, or soapy crap. Dunno.

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