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Oh, I like that.
My plumber came over today (sadly, I need a new dishwasher), and that always leads us to discussions on religion and faith. (He is a member of a very conservative Christian group, the women always wear long skirts, and the men and women generally cover their arms to the elbow ... you know .... dressing for modesty).
Anyway, I was thinking about something that had been discussed briefly in this thread, and that was the idea that, if the Big Bang is the correct theory, then where did the matter in the original BB come from. Was it there forever? Or, did someone "create" it?
But then, if we do consider a god as existing, then, has that god been there forever, or did someone create that god?
It seems to me, no matter whether you argue science or religion, or some mixture of the two, you always get back to something that had to be there "forever."
There is a point beyond which we cannot go.
Also, although I am not quoting him in this post, Gideon mentioned something about religion being separate from the existence of god. That, I completely disagree with, unless you have some really different way of defining "religion."
If religion is defined as being a path to god, then there has to be a god to create a path to. No god, no religion. You may have a philosophical system that produces rules resulting in moral and immoral types of behavior, but that is not the same thing as a religion.
And, it is possible to have one or more gods and not have a religion, in that if the society that believes in that god merely worships but does not believe in a splitting off of god and man, they do not need to have a path back to their god(s). Just a place to do worship/sacrifice/ceremony ... and that's it.
So, perhaps, Gideon, you have some different definition of religion than the one I generally use, but if not, then on that point we definitely disagree. Actually, scratch that ... we disagree on almost everything.
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