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Old 07-26-2016, 10:37 PM   #719
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Originally Posted by Cinisajoy View Post
Your post is one of the big reasons I recommend reading ALL the instructions at least twice and asking questions before even starting the jailbreak.
I did read 1-7 a couple of times before starting. Nothing I read would have saved me from the OTA install of 5.8.1 after having to pause the process at step 4 (this is assuming the blocker directory gets wiped when doing the downgrade). Newbie or not, I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that one will not be thinking of the OTA update when doing this.

I am far for a 'beginner' when it comes to this type of stuff (granted, I haven't played around with jail breaking kindle since the kindle keyboard - and a lot has changed since then).

I get that a lot of you are eyeballs deep in this stuff pretty much day in and day out and it is all second nature, but beginner or not, it is a lot to piece together when coming at this completely fresh.

I landed on the screen saver thread because I wanted to show the cover for the book I am currently reading on the the startup screen. Before I know it, I have multiple threads open for different pieces that need to be installed. With caveats based on FW version and so on. It is great that everything is so thorough, but surely you can't be surprised by a question or 2 being asked due to a misread step or step missed.



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Originally Posted by knc1 View Post
I presume the user knows how to access the Kindle's account on Amazon.
and then select 'manage device' for the device shown in your account.

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I appreciate the suggestions, and over the past three weeks have made a lot of changes based on suggestions.

but your series of posts this evening seem to be more a problem with the reading than the writing.

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There have been a few people in the situation:
Never seen a Kindle before ;
Never used a Kindle before ;
Received the device ;
Opened the box ;
Plugged it in ;
Showed up here (the first time in their life) to jail break the device.
(Their only experience with a Kindle being pushing the power button once.)

I could be convinced that we need a:
"For experienced Kindle users only."
warning right up at the top, following the links to other device jail break instructions.
Fair enough on the MRPI note you commented on in the screen saver thread. That was a complete oversight on my part, but I will take a bit of exception with the 'more a problem reading than the writing'.

I am not trying to imply the instructions are bad - they are very good.

But, for step 7 (1) first place I went was to my kindle account and 'manage you content and devices'. I checked again after reading your response above - I still cannot see anywhere that has the firmware download or a link to it.

Even if it is right there in my face and I am somehow missing it, given how thorough the other steps were with providing links and what not, I still see value in including the link I provided above. If you don't, well, this is your baby, so...

And, nothing written would have prevented my OTA update from happening after step 4 (again assuming the blocker directory get wiped on the downgrade). I appreciate that this happening to me is likely an edge case, but it did happen - I thought I'd let you know (as I know from experience trying to cover all the angles/scenarios can be trying) and make a suggestion of turning on airplane mode as part of the step prevent this from happening to others in the event they get interrupted (or even just step away for a bit while the downgrade is installing - it was quite surprising how quickly the OTA update was applied). Again, take the suggestion for what you feel it is worth.

At the end of the day, I got everything working and I appreciate the pointed points in the right direction when I had a question.

Last edited by foghat; 07-26-2016 at 10:46 PM.
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