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Old 07-22-2016, 02:18 AM   #22
darkbreath
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Originally Posted by DiapDealer
For the record: a Sigil ppa would have been a possibility quite a while ago. And it's a definite possibility now. But there for a while, the dependencies of Sigil simply couldn't be met by LTS systems.

So while a Sigil ppa could be (and often was) attempted by interested third-parties, one was in no better shape when you STILL had to go way outside the LTS (and even newer non-LTS) box for sufficient versions of Qt5 and Python3 for Sigil to work. You'd have needed three ppas: one providing bleeding edge Qt5; one providing a bleeding edge Python3 and one providing Sigil (and a prayer that binaries could be provided that didn't exceed the LTS's glibc limitations due to Sigil's C++11 compiler requirements). I think 14.04 finally got to Python 3.4 just relatively recently, but I think it was still way shy of Sigil's Qt5.4.0 minimum when 16.04 came out.

Now that LTS has caught up to Sigil's dependencies, there's really no need for a ppa anymore--though there's definitely one out there. It's maintainer has been patiently keeping it up to date and ready for whenever kicking it up to Ubuntu's repos finally made sense. It just wouldn't have really helped you before 16.04.

And I'm a fairly recent convert to Arch Linux, as well. The previous "upgrade" from an earlier LTS cured me from ever wanting to go down that road again. My 14.04-based Linux Mint 17 machine will likely rot.
I would gladly install 5 PPAs if it meant I didn't have to compile from source. With PPAs, you just install once and then let the system's automatic update do all the work. And PPAs offer the latest version too. If I compile from source and need a feature from the latest version, I have to compile again. The barriers, both psychological and actual, are high when compiling from source.

I tend to use LTS versions for reasons of stability. Linux has so many small problems that drive me mad, so when I finally manage to fix enough of them to restore some measure of sanity to my computing experience, I want it to last as long as possible; generally not just until the next LTS comes out, but until the support period for the current LTS version expires completely.

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Originally Posted by eschwartz
Arch Linux.

Which places an emphasis on only installing what you explicitly ask for, makes it easy to roll your own packages via the simple PKGBUILD, and isn't quite as hardcore as Gentoo "Compile everything from scratch" Linux, but isn't far behind.

"Arch Linux defines simplicity as without unnecessary additions or modifications."
I was actually thinking of trying Arch until I saw this. I've looked at it briefly and realized I needed to read a huge article just to get Arch installed! I might try it in the future, but I just don't have the time for it right now.

You guys are so ambitious. I only barely got comfortable with Debian derivatives with so much work, and switching to Arch may be as difficult as moving from Windows to Linux was. The learning curve is so steep and shows no signs of getting better as I move up operating systems in difficulty.
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