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Originally Posted by swifty

Unfortunately you are very very incorrect about the following statement: "UX must always come after technical correctness." UX comes absolutely first, and then "technical correctness" comes after. I recommend reading the following article and even this one, to familiarize yourself with what I was saying. It's a very common mistake to confuse UX and UI, so I don't blame you.

I stand by my words.

A great guide with false information helps no one and risks permanent, irrevocable damage.
A difficult-to-comprehend guide will help only a few people (and mainly the more technically inclined), but those people will have a a very usable end product.

"And as has been observed, your "eye-catching and to-the-point" tutorial has and had flaws." This is a silly statement. Everything has "flaws" when you first build something. It's through iterations that things become closer to perfection . And I appreciate all the feedback I've received, and have acted upon them quite quickly to implement.

I have absolutely no problem with your tutorial needing revision. Our (the Kindle Dev Corner "old guard") work needed, needs, and will need revisions too.

I am attempting to explain to you, that casting aspersions on our work because it is not perfect (in ease-of-use) is pretty silly when your work is not perfect (in technical correctness).

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A number of users here have written simplified guides to ease casual users into the jailbreaking scene. For example, have you seen grant2's guide to serial jailbreaking?

Of course, he took care to be polite and provide proper attribution from the beginning. As opposed to waiting to be prompted.

And he never implied anything like:

Originally Posted by swifty

Yeah the way all these guides are written is incredibly difficult to follow. Red text, bold, numbers, everything littered all over a thread haha. I have a master's degree in User Experience Design, so I put my degree to use and I think most people would agree that it is the easiest to follow, currently.

I'm happy to help you rewrite those guides, just shoot me a PM if you want my assistance.

Hmm, insulting the quality of the guides we have done. Because it's all red and bold and littery. Apparently.
And implying that without a degree in "User Experience Design", we won't get far without your help.

Which is galling to hear, from a person who at that point in time has not (yet) corrected his own, supposedly superior, guide to the point where it doesn't give dangerous and destructive advice instead of useful jailbreaking advice.


Perhaps you should spend a bit of time being introspective about your own actions, before complaining of rudeness on the part of others. Because it does not seem to me that you are blameless here, that is for certain.

Quite the welcome for someone that's just trying to help the community.

Which community? The people who create content, or the people who consume content?

Helping one while alienating the other is pretty silly. Both are needed -- one is given purpose by the other, through the mechanism of the other benefiting from the one.

I'm appalled that even a moderator is joining this little brigade now.

What "brigade"? I am merely asking you to refrain from alienating the content creators in your haste to explain things to the content consumers.

Or is it a "brigade" when we as a group mention that it is slightly shocking that you would have needed to be prompted in the first place, to provide accreditation rather than hotlinking other peoples' files into your tutorial?
Because that was just straight-up plagiarism, whether deliberate or accidental, by any objective standard. And the fact that it all took place in the same forum does not ameliorate that.

Accidental plagiarism can still get you expelled from college or lose your journalistic integrity.
Accidental theft can still see you locked up in jail.
Accidental murder still leaves you criminally liable for manslaughter.

So, "it was an accident" isn't really a great excuse, and plagiarism leaves a bad taste in peoples' mouths.

I could argue that it is my duty as a moderator to "join this little brigade". Maybe I was too easy on you, by acting like any ordinary member, and/or leaving the statements by geekmaster and knc1 to stand on their own.

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Anyway, this argument is no longer interesting to me. If it ever particularly was.