[Faterson]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I don't see why we could not have both sets of page numbering with it being the user's choice which to use.

Absolutely, Jon. That is exactly what I'm asking Kris to give us, because he's already announced we'll get the option to customize our headers and footers in Marvin. So, as part of the customization options, I'm simply asking Kris to give us the various page-count options: you would select ADE, I would select "screen flip = page turn", and someone else might stick with Marvin's current "pages in book" count.

I'd be perfectly fine with it if the current page-count mode remained the default; it's crucial, though, for it not to be the only available option in Marvin. It would even be advantageous for Marvin 3 to stick with its current mode (or the ADE mode) as the default, because the "screen flip = page turn" option might be more resource-hungry to calculate precisely for the entire book; so, those calculations would only be performed for those users who would select that particular page-count option.

Originally Posted by JSWolf

You really think genuine page numbers are screen flips?

Of course they are – on that particular device. Which is all that matters. In the world of printed books, you can buy a Bible edition with 500 pages, 750 pages, or 1000 pages. Does it mean that those are "fake pages"? Not at all. They are genuine page numbers – in various Bible editions. And so are screen flips genuine page numbers – on various reading devices. Again, for syncing purposes, there are alternative ways I distinctly prefer – such as the "percentage read" metric (with 4 digits, though: 76.52%), or Marvin's syncing button for iOS-only syncing.

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The problem is that you change settings and your page numbers change.

You're not seriously supposing this needs to be pointed out to me, eh? Again, take the printed-book analogy: of course every printed edition employs different font types and font sizes, let alone different book sizes, so that, as you say, "page numbers change" from edition to edition. And so they would change from reading device to reading device (or from one set of settings to a different set on the same reading device) in the world of electronic books. It's perfectly natural, and I see nothing wrong with it. To clarify: I'm not trying to enforce that option for everyone. But as you and I have just agreed upon, it's a legitimate user preference (and I very much suspect it's the most natural user preference and expectation among regular-joe and regular-jane book readers, MobileRead geeks apart). So, Marvin 3 should definitely give us the opportunity to enable that "screen flip = page turn" page-count option on our reading devices.

Originally Posted by democrite

Agree, though everyone isn't going to, that # of pages per device remains the same.

How wonderfully inconsistent you are. Isn't it one of the worst sins in software for it to be glaringly inconsistent? I do believe it is. So, how are you going to justify that in Marvin 3, "pages in chapter" actually follows the dimensions of your reading device (which makes all the sense in the world), while for "pages in book", Marvin 3 suddenly switches to some arbitrary, abstract, nonsensical "page"-count that will be the same on a 4-inch iPhone and on the 13-inch iPad Pro? Can anything be more glaringly inconsistent?

By all means: if some Marvin users such as yourself and Jon prefer such wild inconsistency, I have nothing against Kris giving you that option. But, please do not force that inconsistency on the rest of us. I'm pretty sure a non-geek Marvin user would appreciate if the "pages in chapter" and "pages in book" counts worked the same, consistently – you flip a page, and the page count goes down by 1 (not by 0, 2, 3 or 4 – of course!), regardless of the size of your reading device.

Originally Posted by democrite

naming all such things "major flaws"

You're so fond of personally attacking me (for a reason I can't fathom – I'd never had any interactions with you until very recently) that you're succumbing to your hallucinations once again. If you really bothered to read my submissions, you would find many of them where I label certain issues as "minor" or "cosmetic". Go over to Marvin's GitHub and examine some of the dozens of issues I submitted there over the years, instead of blathering nonsense here, OK?

Originally Posted by ShellShock

I think you are much more likely to achieve what you want if you tone down your language.

Don't worry on my behalf, please. Only earlier today, I was reading Cato:

Maxima enim morum semper patientia virtus.